The Boeing Triple 7

Peter Duniho wrote:

I'm not aware of any jet with a humidifier. Certainly, my friend at Boeing
claims that no commonly used commercial airliner has a humidifier.

I'm told the B787 will have "some sort of" humidifier in it. I'm not
sure what the Boeing engineers have come up with, but I hope it works.
Guess I'll have to wait until August of 2008 to find out. (looking
forward to flying it!!)

BJ
NWA

Allen wrote:
"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
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"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
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I think it was in the days when American was removing olives from the
salads to save money.


Allen wrote:

And cutting their flight attendant's pay while giving their executives
free Mercedes cars.

The attendants are free to find other employment.


That's correct! Who would want to work for a company that is crying poverty
and warning it's employee's that if they do not give wage concessions the
company will go bankrupt, then turn around and in the same month give away a
million dollars worth of cars (to suits who each are paid what 30 flight
attendants make). Sounds a lot like Enron conduct to me.

Regardless of your opinion, the flight attendants are not hired to
comment on management policies. It is a free market and they are free
to quit. Nobody is tasked with making them happy.

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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Qouting from my B-707 and B-727 Flight Manuals: [...]

Perhaps I should clarify that my question pertains to cruise flight at
altitude, since that's the issue here. I would be surprised if the systems
you're describing are needed at FL390.

Chris wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The 777 is not that good. Having crossed the Atlantic many times in it,
it is my least liked aircraft. It has a reputation for being very dry.
Try it on an 11 hour flight. Last month I got through three litres of
water during a flight from Beijing to London

Hmm. I wonder if it's where you're seated, cuz we didn't find this to be
the case at all. Usually I'm totally desiccated after an airline flight,
but not on this bird.


Done it in coach and business still the same. Flight attendants complain
about it all the time and I suppose they are probably a better judge than
anyone.

Seen all those wizened old wreck flight attendants that look as though they
are 90 years old. Unique to the 777. In truth they are only 25. FAs look
much younger on other aircraft.

I heard a story from the BA crew I travelled back from Beijing with that in
their stopover hotel was a US airline crew with a 80 year old flight
attendant in the crew.

Wow so 777s make air drier (somehow; defies phyics) and also makes 25 yr old
flight attendants look 90. What an amazing super plane. Congradulations for
Boeing for such magicical features.

Paul

A lot of Airlines cut back on the cruising speed to save fuel (save
money).

Difference in block time of an hour doesn't mean anything in the real
world. If you know the ETA then you can schedule any connection based
on that with no problem. I'd rather fly a little slower and have the
ticket cost less.

And yes I have flown on the Concorde.

Big John
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On 26 May 2005 06:36:30 -0700, "Paul kgyy"
wrote:

The 777 is awesome for its size but slow for international trips - flew
on one to England a couple years ago and en route saw a 747 overhauling
us easily - might have cut an hour off the travel time.

On Thu, 26 May 2005 10:27:03 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"Hilton" wrote in message
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Aren't you forgetting the pressurization, heating, and cooling systems?

No, I'm not. At what point in those systems would your hypothetical
dehumidifier exist? Why would it exist?


Not sure of your definition of a "hypothetical dehumidifier". Most
pressurization/cooling systems that I am familiar with have a
coalescer "sock" with a corresponding drain hose. Typically, the water
collected is routed to spray on a heat exchanger elsewhere in the
system.

Not sure if the sock really sees much/any moisture at altitude, but
have had personal experience with them freezing during TO & climb.

A shop air compressor tank is filled with hot high-pressure air, yet
it gradually fills with water during use...

http://www.b737.org.uk/airconditioning.htm

"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:
"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
...

"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
egroups.com...


I think it was in the days when American was removing olives from the
salads to save money.


Allen wrote:

And cutting their flight attendant's pay while giving their executives
free Mercedes cars.

The attendants are free to find other employment.


That's correct! Who would want to work for a company that is crying
poverty
and warning it's employee's that if they do not give wage concessions
the
company will go bankrupt, then turn around and in the same month give
away a
million dollars worth of cars (to suits who each are paid what 30 flight
attendants make). Sounds a lot like Enron conduct to me.

Regardless of your opinion, the flight attendants are not hired to
comment on management policies. It is a free market and they are free
to quit. Nobody is tasked with making them happy.

I have already agreed with you on that point, are you dense or just stupid?
Look around you. When you see a company with happy employees it is
thriving. When management beats the workforce into the ground the company
is soon to follow.

I have already agreed with you on that point, are you dense or just
stupid?
Look around you. When you see a company with happy employees it is
thriving. When management beats the workforce into the ground the company
is soon to follow.

I fervently wish that were true, but I've worked for some very successful
corporations who abused (and continue to abuse) their employees mercilessly.

Whenever I hear about "management" trying to "make their employees happy" --
I cringe. We used to call these actions "bonuses" -- as in "bone-us!"
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

I fervently wish that were true, but I've worked for some very successful
corporations who abused (and continue to abuse) their employees mercilessly.

"Our employees are our greatest asset. I say we sell them."

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

"Chris" wrote in message


The 777.... has a reputation for being very dry. Try it on an 11 hour
flight. Last month I got through three litres of water during a flight
from Beijing to London

That's actually a little on the low side. When I was flying the 747-100
and -200, we'd each drink about 4-5 litres on a 7-8 hour flight. Maybe the
777 is not so dry as you think.