Public Aerobatics - a Disaster waiting to happen...

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
There's a lot to be said for an articulate man.

Which one of us are you trying to nail with this gem of wit?


Not you... I'm on your side. He has his head buried in his ass.

Not entirely...he sees it (probably) on the same level as auto racing or
other forms with high risk of catastrophe. This all for mere entertainment
as opposed to flight test where the purpose is R&D.

"Tina Marie" wrote

About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above.

I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated. If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop, or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy them.
As is, if able to (not working), I go in a building, or back to camp, to
escape the noise.

I like noise and airplanes. I like B-1 full afterburner passes. I like the
Harrier hovering. I like a B-17 taking off, and P-51's, and ....

There is something about the slow beating of big props (some of them) that I
just can't stand.

Any act that substitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Shaun Tucker bores you? He has extreme power, but the stuff he does can not
be done by airplanes. Somehow he does them. :-)
--
Jim in NC

"Newps" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:

"Denny" wrote in message
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Interesting bunch of responses, but nothing I have read so far induces
me to change my statement... Reread the first sentence of my original
post...
For those who suggest I am operating from lack of information, I have
been ground crew at internationally sanctioned aerobatic
competitions...

cheers ... denny


WOW!!!


Aerobatics performers are like bull riders. A goddamned stupid thing to
do, serves no useful purpose and you deserve what you get.

Idiot. Name one sport you enjoy watching that has an element of danger. If
you cant, explain why nobody else should. Prove your lack of mental
competence and imagination for posterity.

m

moo

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
Well that's good to know anyway :-) Perhaps if you could be just a tad
more
articulate in the future please? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))


I'll see what can be done. Hell, I've always admired those who can do
aerobatics. I have a different skill set but that doesn't mean I can't
appreciate skillful flying of whatever type.

Well said. Do what you do well. Do what you enjoy.

moo

Morgans wrote:
I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated. If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop, or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy them.


You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons make is
the blade tips going supersonic. Shorter blades go even faster.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because
of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated.
If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop,
or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy
them.


You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons
make is
the blade tips going supersonic. Shorter blades go even faster.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.

Ummm...no, it's all a function of blade diameter and the corresponding
circumference of the prop at the tip. At the same RPM, the shorter blade's
tips are traveling SLOWER (due to the smaller circumference) than a larger
blade.

Ummm...no, it's all a function of blade diameter and the corresponding
circumference of the prop at the tip. At the same RPM, the shorter blade's
tips are traveling SLOWER (due to the smaller circumference) than a larger
blade.

This is true. However, it is not what is (likely) important.

When you change blade length, you need to change something else to
compensate (for what?). Depending on what you will be holding constant,
you will get different results.

Hold RPM constant and power goes down. Hold power constant, and RPM
must go up. If you want to do the same routine with shorter blades,
you'll need to hold power, not RPM, constant.

Jose
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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There's a lot to be said for an articulate man.

"Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate
mother****er."

Hi
I read your message and I have to admit I totally disagree with you, I
have been watching aerobatics since I was a young boy and a reason I
became a pilot is from watching these guys putting their planes upside
down.
As someone previously stated we don't need any more reductions in
freedom, I like watching aerobatics and obviously a lot of other people
do, if you don’t like it just don’t attend the show.

Oliver.


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oliverledoux
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote

You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons
make is
the blade tips going supersonic.

Close. It is the air over the blades being accelerated to supersonic
speeds.

Shorter blades go even faster.

Shorter blades turned at the same RPM would not have supersonic airflow.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.

I don't mind a certain amount of rap. Theirs is too much. IMHO
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Jim in NC