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Old July 26th 05, 02:39 PM
Ron Lee
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Who cares. I just follow the purple line (pilotage?).

Seriously, I like Desired Track Up since it does provide a course
indication if the line is not vertical.

Isn't GPS great?

Ron Lee
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Old July 26th 05, 02:42 PM
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In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh, thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from 15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
*****************

found he

http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml


Interesting. But driving is not the same as flying, inasmuch as
situational awareness is not critical, nor need it be three-dimensional.
There is no need to match up the ground with the map in the same way
as in flying.

But that's besides the point. The sex difference is interesting.

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Old July 26th 05, 02:51 PM
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Seriously, I like Desired Track Up since it does provide a course
indication if the line is not vertical.


Desired track up doesn't do that. Plain old "track up" is what does.

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Old July 26th 05, 02:53 PM
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GPS = Track up
Chart = North up

I tend to use the GPS for tactical situational awareness and use the chart
for more strategic SA.

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Old July 26th 05, 04:08 PM
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In article ,
"John T" wrote:

GPS = Track up
Chart = North up

I tend to use the GPS for tactical situational awareness and use the chart
for more strategic SA.


Just want to express admiration for the terse but effective phrasing
he "tactical SA" and "strategic SA" seem very effective ways of
characterizing the two approaches.
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Old July 26th 05, 06:29 PM
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Friedrich,

I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it but I can now see that
north-up for big picture and track-up for close navigation is very useful
and pretty much what I end up doing. Good point.

Shawn
"Friedrich Ostertag" wrote in message
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Peter R. wrote:

ShawnD2112 wrote:


Male preference is for north-up while female preference is for track-up,
generally (all who are going to add how they are an exception can save
the typing - this is a gross generalization).



Gross generalization or not, where did you get this theory? I suppose
you
don't have an Internet reference to educate those of us equipped with an
apparent female preference, eh?


from the book mentioned:

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In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a
standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for
people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh,
thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from
15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
*****************

found he

http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml

I will not be held responsible for the scientific value and correctness of
the statement :-)

Personally, I use north-up on my car navigation most of the time (I'm not
a pilot). But when approaching junctions, the system switches to track-up
(and zooms in) automatically, and I find that very useful.

To me it seems that for the "big picture" north-up is more helpful, while
for locating yourself in the close surroundings, track-up might even make
it easier for men :-)

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Friedrich

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Old July 26th 05, 06:38 PM
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According to the Peases', the sex difference is based on how men and women's
brains are configured and developed. They are very different because, in
pre-feminist 20th century evolutionary terms, men and women fulfilled
entirely different roles to ensure the survival of the species. Fascinating
stuff and, as I said, should be mandatory reading.

Ever wonder why, when you get home from work, your wife wants to talk your
ear off when all you want is a half hour by yourself? Men typically speak
about 10,000-15,000 words in a day, and a day at work usually achieves that;
women use around 80,000. If she's only used 50,000 by the time you get
home, guess who's going to get the other 30,000 before bedtime? Why?
Women's linguistic centers in the brain are way more developed than mens' -
they provided the social center of a tribe and the collective
peacekeeping/relationship building to ensure the tribe stayed together for
survival in numbers. Meanwhile men were out hunting and keeping quiet so
they didn't spook the game, only speaking to communicate important
information. Men use language to communicate information, women use it to
build and sustain relationships.

If you've ever had an argument with your wife in the car about reading the
map, you ought to read the book. After you do, guarantee you'll never ask
your wife to read the map again (standard exception disclaimer implied).

Anyway, a fascinating and very funny look at how men and women are
different. Worth a read.

Shawn

"Jose" wrote in message
. ..
In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a
standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for
people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh,
thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from
15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
*****************

found he

http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml


Interesting. But driving is not the same as flying, inasmuch as
situational awareness is not critical, nor need it be three-dimensional.
There is no need to match up the ground with the map in the same way as in
flying.

But that's besides the point. The sex difference is interesting.

Jose
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Old July 27th 05, 09:39 AM
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:38:46 GMT, "ShawnD2112"
wrote:

Ever wonder why, when you get home from work, your wife wants to talk your
ear off when all you want is a half hour by yourself?


For a good part of a woman's life, this could be because she's spent
the preceding ten hours talking mostly with people shorter than four
feet, most of whose sentences begin with "I WANT!"

(Of course, a good part of her conversation with her husband will also
begin with his saying "I want".)



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Old July 27th 05, 04:57 PM
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"Kai Glaesner" wrote in message
m...
Hello,


No consens was found so I would like to hear from you: are your a

"North-Up"
or a "Track-Up" sort of pilot (explanation why you are would help)?


Track up.


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Old July 27th 05, 06:00 PM
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Too true, too true.
"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:38:46 GMT, "ShawnD2112"
wrote:

Ever wonder why, when you get home from work, your wife wants to talk your
ear off when all you want is a half hour by yourself?


For a good part of a woman's life, this could be because she's spent
the preceding ten hours talking mostly with people shorter than four
feet, most of whose sentences begin with "I WANT!"

(Of course, a good part of her conversation with her husband will also
begin with his saying "I want".)



-- all the best, Dan Ford

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