Cirrus Killer? Cessna just doesn't get it...

"ET" wrote in message
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Reading Avwebs latest addition (avweb.com) I'm reading all about how
Cessna is developing (very hush hush) their "cirrus killer", new high
performance 4 place single. They are being very hush hush about the
whole thing, except for one point; the new design will be a high
wing....

Without debating the idea of high wing vs low wing as far as flying


advantages, the "perception" (right or wrong)of the high wing is a lower
& slower plane . When have you seen a jet fighter with a high wing??

Cessna has always gotten it better than any other aircraft company. They
have much more utility than Cirrus could even dream about. Wanna load a
bulky heavy object into a Cirrus in the rain? Not me. Wing position has
nothing to do with performance. People don't spend $350K based on
"perception." Most people I know do not believe in your "perception." To
sum it up you are simply wrong on all accounts. If you have stock in Cirrus
now would be a good time to sell.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in
m:

People don't spend $350K based on
"perception." Most people I know do not believe in your "perception."
To sum it up you are simply wrong on all accounts. If you have stock
in Cirrus now would be a good time to sell.


Actually, people DO buy many things based on perception, including $350
+K aircraft.

How many threads on this newsgroup have talked about "Cirrus pilots have
"the wrong stuff""..

How many people buy a $25-$30k Harley for the "cool" factor, even though
a $9K Kawasaki may be every bit as good a bike???


How many of your wives out there would have (again, right or wrong)
climbed into the cockpit with you sooner if the plane had a BRS
installed??

Call it Perception... call it Emotion.. That's what drives sales. Not
talking about a better plane... it's "marketing"

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-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

"How many of your wives out there would have (again, right or wrong)
climbed into the cockpit with you sooner if the plane had a BRS
installed?? "

The BRS is a wife pleaser, no doubt about it. But how many wives would
like an airplane with huge SUV sized doors that don't require any
climbing at all? An airplane they just step into to, like they do their
Ford Explorer?

That would be a Cardinal or C210 with a BRS.

The BRS is a wife pleaser, no doubt about it.

My wife doesn't even know what a BRS is.
She still says, "Let's fly to ??? for the weekend."

"john smith" wrote in message
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The BRS is a wife pleaser, no doubt about it.

My wife doesn't even know what a BRS is.
She still says, "Let's fly to ??? for the weekend."

If my plane had a BRS my wife would question my piloting abilities being so
bad I need something akin to training wheels. She would probably not go
with as she does now often falling to sleep minutes into the flight.

Call it Perception... call it Emotion.. That's what drives sales. Not
talking about a better plane... it's "marketing"

No, what drives sales is MARKETING!
How much money and "information" are presented to the potential buyers
is what makes sales.
There are more people with money than there are people with money AND
brains.

john smith wrote in news:jsmith-6C8F3E.18045030092005
@news-rdr-02.ohiordc.rr.com:

Call it Perception... call it Emotion.. That's what drives sales. Not
talking about a better plane... it's "marketing"

No, what drives sales is MARKETING!
How much money and "information" are presented to the potential buyers
is what makes sales.
There are more people with money than there are people with money AND
brains.



My point exactly, thanks...

--
-- ET :-)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

ET wrote:

How many of your wives out there would have (again, right or wrong)
climbed into the cockpit with you sooner if the plane had a BRS
installed??

Neither one of them.

In fact, if my Maule had had a BRS, I would not have bought it. The useful load
wouldn't have been high enough.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

ET wrote:

"Dave Stadt" wrote in
m:


People don't spend $350K based on
"perception." Most people I know do not believe in your "perception."
To sum it up you are simply wrong on all accounts. If you have stock
in Cirrus now would be a good time to sell.



Actually, people DO buy many things based on perception, including $350
+K aircraft.

How many threads on this newsgroup have talked about "Cirrus pilots have
"the wrong stuff""..

How many people buy a $25-$30k Harley for the "cool" factor, even though
a $9K Kawasaki may be every bit as good a bike???


How many of your wives out there would have (again, right or wrong)
climbed into the cockpit with you sooner if the plane had a BRS
installed??

Call it Perception... call it Emotion.. That's what drives sales. Not
talking about a better plane... it's "marketing"

Yes, many people do, but pilots aren't normal people. :-)

Pilots are generally thinking people by nature and I suspect much less
likely to buy based on emotion or perception.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

Yes, many people do, but pilots aren't normal people. :-)

Pilots are generally thinking people by nature and I suspect much less
likely to buy based on emotion or perception.

And that's why they absolutely refuse to buy a new design but prefer to
deliberately stick with 50s technology... :-P

Stefan