Stolen Jet found in Georgia

Maybe a figure of speech, but it makes a strong implication that is harmful to the community. For the jet to have been accidentally left open, AND for that same jet to be stolen, would require either people prowling for an open jet and getting lucky (this implies that there probably would be lots of people doing this to get lucky so fast), or that somehow the prowlers had some inkling that this particular jet, on this particular day, was a good target


A friend of mine is a tower controller at St. Augustine where the plane
was stolen from. Apparently the father of the punk-ass kid that stole
it owns a charter company. I don't know if the jet was owned by this or
some other company. I understand what you're saying by the
implications. I think in this case it was just a bored young punk with
a jet type rating looking for something to do. He may have talked with
the crew and knew the door wasn't locked? I doubt just anyone getting
into one of those things could even get the engines started - that
takes training and understanding. It's not as if any shmuck could
figure out how to start the engines on a Citation (without destroying
them in a hot start). It ain't a Cessna.

In article .com,
" wrote:

I doubt just anyone getting into one of those things could even get
the engines started - that takes training and understanding. It's not
as if any shmuck could figure out how to start the engines on a
Citation (without destroying them in a hot start).

I looked his name up in the FAA database, and he has a Westwind type
rating. While there will obviously be systems differences, I'm sure he
has enough knowledge to get it up and running without too much
difficulty.

It ain't a Cessna.

Well, actually it is. grin

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=
http://www.garnermiller.com/

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:49:10 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote:

Agreed, that they don't just "give these things away." But wouldn't you
agree, that once you get your ticket, it is very possible to not stay
current or proficient if you don't practice regularly? Would you agree
that there are some pilots out there who got their PPL long ago, and now
fly so infrequently as to be a danger to themselves, their passengers, or
those below?

Most, if not all people who study, practice and earn their PPL do so
because they've always wanted to fly an airplane. Once they've gotten
their license, they want to fly. The cost may limit how often they
can fly, but practicing means flying an airplane. At the FBO where I
rent, the insurance requires that any pilot renting from them must
have made at least three landings in the past 45 days. "Oh please
don't trow me in dat briar patch."

Every two years pilots go through something called the "biennial
flight review". You may not have heard of it because you did not
finish your flight training but it is required of all private pilots.
During this review the CFI will ask the pilot to demonstrate
proficiency in anything he/she feels is relevant to the act of flying
safely. It includes ground school. According to the CFI who gave me
my BFR,

Corky Scott

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:53:14 -0400,
wrote:

According to the CFI who gave me
my BFR,

Sorry, hit send before I was ready.

The rest of the sentence is: you are not legal to fly if you do not
complete the BFR within the two year period.

Corky Scott

Skylune wrote:

Personally, I think a VFR ticket only s/b eliminated. All pilots should
have to be able to fly IFR. That would eliminate hundreds of mishaps per
year. Nothings perfect of course, but these learn to fly in a month
schools are insane, IMHO.

Do you have any evidence that these "insane" fly-in-a-month schools'
graduates have any different risk profile than a pilot like me who got
his PPL in 75 hours over 13 months?

-cwk.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe a figure of speech, but it makes a strong implication that is
harmful to the community. For the jet to have been accidentally left open,
AND for that same jet to be stolen, would require either people prowling for
an open jet and getting lucky (this implies that there probably would be
lots of people doing this to get lucky so fast), or that somehow the
prowlers had some inkling that this particular jet, on this particular day,
was a good target


A friend of mine is a tower controller at St. Augustine where the plane
was stolen from. Apparently the father of the punk-ass kid that stole
it owns a charter company. I don't know if the jet was owned by this or
some other company. I understand what you're saying by the
implications. I think in this case it was just a bored young punk with
a jet type rating looking for something to do. He may have talked with
the crew and knew the door wasn't locked? I doubt just anyone getting
into one of those things could even get the engines started - that
takes training and understanding. It's not as if any shmuck could
figure out how to start the engines on a Citation (without destroying
them in a hot start). It ain't a Cessna.

Well, actually it is a Cessna. :-)

It ain't a Cessna.


Well, actually it is. grin


Oy. Yeah I caught that just *after* I hit the Post button...

I've read from several different sources he had a Citation 1A type
rating. That's the first time I've heard about the Westwind, but you
know how the media screws up details when it comes to aviation...

Well, actually it is a Cessna. :-)

Didn't take long to pick up on that eh?? *grimace*

What I meant to say was "It ain't a 172..."

In article . com,
" wrote:

I've read from several different sources he had a Citation 1A type
rating. That's the first time I've heard about the Westwind, but you
know how the media screws up details when it comes to aviation...

Yep. Makes me more than a little cynical when I hear them reporting on
other topics, knowing how badly they screw up this one.

His rating was "IA-JET," which is the code for the Westwind. The
original Citation came out in 1972, followed by the Citation I in 1976.
There was never a "1A."

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=
http://www.garnermiller.com/

His rating was "IA-JET," which is the code for the Westwind. The
original Citation came out in 1972, followed by the Citation I in 1976.

There was never a "1A."

You're right, I was thinking of the Citation 1SP, which is covered
under the CE-500 type rating anyway