alexis park inn and aviation videos

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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My impression of his post is that somehow, email is going around
advertising
your hotel by using the aviation video page as a lure.

Dang -- THAT is a pretty loose definition of "Spam".

That's like saying that AvWeb is a spammer because a friend recommends
it to me. After all, AvWeb has advertisers, and stands to gain from my
dropping by their site.

Depends on the email. The implication I saw in Martin's post (not like
he's bothered to be clear about what his point really is or anything) is
that the email he received was sent by you for the sole purpose of
advertising.

Technically, this is what is known as a "stupid assumption."

A couple of years ago, I, too, received a forward from close friend of mine
who had received it from someone else and so on. It was a funny video of a
plane scaring the hell out of a man on the ground. The video was stored on
Jay's site.

It was pretty clear from Martin's post that a similar thing happened to him.

--
Jim Fisher

Do you have the impression this thread is an example of not following
the sage advice that suggests "When you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging"?

"Tony" wrote in message
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Do you have the impression this thread is an example of not following
the sage advice that suggests "When you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging"?


Advice -- the wise don't need it, and the fool won't heed it.

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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are you that ignorant or are you only plaing the clown here?

Neither. You are failing to communicate properly.

the mail came from our system. read: our mailserver. and before that it
was
forwarded from elsewhere. [...]

"Came from" implies point of origin. Just because it went *through* your
mail system, that does NOT mean it "came from" your mail system.

well, I blame the whole "misunderstanding" on different viewpoints here
and
over there. We see things a whole bunch different than you do, apparently.

"Here" and "over there" To what are you referring now? Who is "we"? What
do "they" have to do with your accusation of Jay as a spammer?

Pete

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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[...]
f*ck the moral. My moral is different than yours and different than the
one
of 5 billion other people.

Ahh...and there is the crux. You feel that your version of morality is the
only relevant one, and if that doesn't preclude a false accusation against
another person, then "f*ck" that (your word, not mine).

Well, thank you for clearing up how we got here. I can't say I was
expecting much different, but it's nice for you to finally be clear and
admit your unwarranted attack on Jay.

Pete

("Peter Duniho" wrote)
well, I blame the whole "misunderstanding" on different viewpoints here
and over there. We see things a whole bunch different than you do,
apparently.

"Here" and "over there" To what are you referring now? Who is "we"?
What do "they" have to do with your accusation of Jay as a spammer?


That's it. I'm calling in ...the Vikings!
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_python.htm


Wife: Have you got anything without spam?
Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam
in it.

Wife: I don't want ANY spam!
Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage?

Wife: THAT'S got spam in it!
Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it?

Vikings: Spam spam spam spam... (Crescendo through next few lines...)


Montblack
"I'll have your spam. I love it. I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam
spam beaked beans spam spam spam and spam!"

That's it. I'm calling in ...the Vikings!
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_python.htm

Whew! For a minute there I though Daunte Culpepper was going to be
booking a party at the hotel! :-)

Vikings: Spam spam spam spam... (Crescendo through next few lines...)

"LOOOOOOVELY SPAAAAAA-AAAAAM, wonderful Spam!"

"Spam, spam, spam, spam -- spam, spam, spam spam --..."

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

That's it. I'm calling in ...the Vikings!
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_python.htm

Whew! For a minute there I though Daunte Culpepper was going to be
booking a party at the hotel! :-)

Vikings: Spam spam spam spam... (Crescendo through next few lines...)

"LOOOOOOVELY SPAAAAAA-AAAAAM, wonderful Spam!"

"Spam, spam, spam, spam -- spam, spam, spam spam --..."


hey. knock it off.

:-)

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

For unattributed works, there are generally two things that you could do
with it:

1. Do not put it on your website until you have permission of the
copyright holder or find where the copyright holder has released it to
the public domain.
2. Put it on your website, with the offer to remove it at the request of
the copyright holder. Usually has a line that says "Author (or
whatever)" unknown.

Obviously, most people choose #2. As long as they abide by their
promise to remove works at the request of the copyright holder, there
shouldn't be any problem.

If an unattributed work is available freely from multiple places on the
internet, a copyright holder is going to have a hard time getting any
substantial damages.

Because we are talking about unattributed works (aviation videos that
are not available for purchase), downloading and file sharing of music
from known artists and publishers is not the same.

Downloading music without paying for it is illegal, since the work is 1)
copyrighted, 2) available for legal purchase and 3) from a known artist.

Martin Hotze wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:00:46 -0800, Peter Duniho wrote:

Video copyright is exactly the same as music copyright.

.... how good to hear.

However, not all
copyrighted material is available at any price,

and this gives you exactly which rights?

nor are all copyright owners
as finicky about people making use of their copyrighted material as the RIAA
and MPAA are.

then they are free to give proper permission.
you have no permission? well .... you now can play our your moral (see
below).

Jay's use of non-commercially-available low-quality web videos is very
different from your own illegal music file sharing,

I never said that I (illegaly) downloaded music. I only said "if I WOULD".

at least from a moral
stance if not legal.

f*ck the moral. My moral is different than yours and different than the one
of 5 billion other people.

Pete

#m

"Neb" wrote in message
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For unattributed works, there are generally two things that you could do
with it:

1. Do not put it on your website until you have permission of the
copyright holder or find where the copyright holder has released it to the
public domain.
2. Put it on your website, with the offer to remove it at the request of
the copyright holder. Usually has a line that says "Author (or whatever)"
unknown.

Obviously, most people choose #2. As long as they abide by their promise
to remove works at the request of the copyright holder, there shouldn't be
any problem.


Don't count on it.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/browse_frm/thread/cefacb1942bbeca2/eecf1785033147ca?q=copyright&rnum=6#eecf1785033147 ca

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