Will the "Immigrant Boycott" shut down any airports?

"Newps" wrote

While that may or may not be true, it is irrelavant. Watch your email
inbox today for comments made by the Australian prime minister. He
basically says love it or leave it.

It is unlikely that I will get such an E-mail. Care to post a link, or post
it here?
--
Jim in NC

Jay Honeck wrote:
These so-called "professionals" have deluded themselves into thinking
that it's somehow okay to hire illegal aliens (because "Americans don't
want to do that kind of work"), and that these illegals somehow have
rights that supercede the law.

the customers are a bit to blame too: how much more would it cost
to eat out (or to just buy the groceries for that matter) if it was
not for cheap illegal labor working on farms or in restaurants?

we like it cheap, and few people -- including the ones fuming and
enraged by today's protests -- would be willing to pay the price.

--Sylvain (fully documented immigrant)

"Sylvain" wrote

the customers are a bit to blame too: how much more would it cost
to eat out (or to just buy the groceries for that matter) if it was
not for cheap illegal labor working on farms or in restaurants?

we like it cheap, and few people -- including the ones fuming and
enraged by today's protests -- would be willing to pay the price.

When there is no choice, most will pay the increased prices.

What happens when gas prices increase 100%? We pay. Gas is a much larger
part of most people's budgets, than eating out, or the few cents more for
the tomatoes, at the grocery store. Still, we buy gas.

Will some people have to cut back a little? Yes, some will, a little, but
not most.

I put it back on the shoulders of the farmer, or hotelman, or whatever
employer.

If most employers are being legal, and you are not, you get to charge the
same as what they are charging for their services/products. The money you
saved by using undocumented labor goes straight into your pocket. All of
it.

Greed. It all comes down to greed.

Nail the employer. Nail them hard. When no employer is willing to take the
chance, there will be no jobs for the illegals, and eventually, they will
stop coming.
--
Jim in NC

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, Pete, Reuter's thinks you're wrong by a few million:

Well, when Reuter's explains how they get their number, then we can discuss
that. Until then, the US Census Bureau seems to have a pretty good handle
on things:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/shared...eport_1211.pdf

Even accounting for an estimated 1.8 million added since 2000, that's only 9
million. In any case, even if you believe Reuter's, the numbers are ALL in
the same ballpark, and not anywhere close to Montblack's claims.

I wonder how they estimate the number of illegal aliens? It's not like
they're standing around, asking to be counted.

They use a very similar process to that used to count the rest of us. Do
you stand around, asking to be counted?

If you really care about the details, it's all in the report. Read it. You
might learn something.

Pete

"Chris S" wrote in message
ink.net...
The actual number is irrelevant. The point is there is a ****-load of
them
here, and they are still coming at a rate of about 1,000,000 a month (give
or take a few thousand).

Another bogus number. The most reliable estimate I've seen puts the number
at a third of that (see the US Census report I referenced in a different
post).

And again, gotta love the highly precise term "****-load".

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Peter Duniho" wrote)
[snips]
INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that. I
have plenty of personal experience with the INS to confirm your
assertion. I'm not clear on how that is relevant to the question of who
should be permitted to immigrate to the US, or what to do with those who
decide to do so illegally.

Stop them. Turn them back. Return them.

That's your answer to the question. It doesn't explain how you arrived at
that answer, nor does it explain how the abilities or lack thereof within
the INS are relevant.

Three points:
1. "INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about
that."
Total 2003 estimated numbers of "illegals" is a GOVERNMENT driven number.
I chose to believe my own lying eyes.

The INS isn't the one doing the estimation. You have a better number, with
published methodology for how it was determined? I'm all ears.

2. What do you see more of when you're out and about - babies or Mexicans?
Between 1947 and 1967 that answer would have been babies. g

For me, it's still babies. The numbers support this observation as well. I
didn't bother to check the numbers for specific states...perhaps the
relative balance in California, Arizona, etc. is different. But overall,
there are still FAR more babies around than there are immigrants, illegal or
otherwise.

3. I've lived next to the Mississippi River all of my life - "flooding" is
not a vague term

Sorry...I didn't realize you were talking about liquified illegal
immigrants. I didn't even realize they existed.

You'd think an event like that would gain some sort of national attention,
but I've yet to hear about it. Everyone's basements getting filled up with
liquid immigrants and all. Seems like all the news media companies would
want to cover that.

You're in love with the numbers, but unfortunately, lost in them too. The
parade is over here, Pete.

You are the one who started with the numbers, not I. It just happens that
your numbers were bull****, while mine actually have some basis in fact.
I'm not in love with them; I just hate to see someone else abusing them.

Pete

Montblack wrote:
Somewhat agree here, however, we're now back to square one - what is the
real number of illegals hunkering down within our infrastructure? My eyes
tell me our Government has lost ALL control of even counting them!

Pete, they're everywhere - in numbers.

Pablo Montblack

That's funny, but pretty soon you'll be spelling that "Pablo
MonteNegro" :-))

The Monk

Nail the employer. Nail them hard. When no employer is willing to take the
chance, there will be no jobs for the illegals, and eventually, they will
stop coming.

Amen, brother.

In fact, I have sent an open letter to the Lodging Association,
advocating precisely that.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Anybody notice the drop in spam today?



--
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Nail the employer. Nail them hard. When no employer is
willing to take the
| chance, there will be no jobs for the illegals, and
eventually, they will
| stop coming.
|
| Amen, brother.
|
| In fact, I have sent an open letter to the Lodging
Association,
| advocating precisely that.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

On 2006-05-02, Jim Macklin p51mustang wrote:
Anybody notice the drop in spam today?

There are some rumours that spam king Alan Ralsky has been arrested and
is possibly fingering the operators of various 'bot nets'.

Ralsky is a US citizen.
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...=Alan%20Ralsky

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