Oshkosh camping list? (Planning for next year)

In article . com,
"Longworth" wrote:

I'm thinking of replacing it with a
single-burner multi fuel backpacking stove and will have to do some
reseach.

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In article
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john smith wrote:

In article . com,
"Longworth" wrote:

I'm thinking of replacing it with a
single-burner multi fuel backpacking stove and will have to do some
reseach.

Look here for ideas
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/

"Longworth" wrote:

When it comes to camping at Oshkosh or even camping with your plane,
we are complete newbies. I just thought that it was a cool idea to use
the tarp over the wing to shield the tent.

It is a cool idea. It would have kept the rain off my buddy's tent and saved
the last two days of our trip.


You are right that when
dirt or grit gets under the tarp, paint damages are certain.

.... 's all I'm sayin'.

"Longworth" wrote:

I'd think that the plastic tarp would be soft enough
not to inflict any damages.

Even if it does not "wear" the paint... there is a different
problem.

Note that even a tied-down airplane "rocks" in the wind.
All night, the tarp moves against the wing... creak, creak,
creak. I did the over-the-wing ONCE... never again!
Even if the noise does not bother you... it may bother your
neighbors, who will ensure that your tarp-over-the-wing
blows away in the next wind storm. :-)

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocations!"
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wrote in message ...
: "Longworth" wrote:
:
: I'd think that the plastic tarp would be soft enough
: not to inflict any damages.
:
: Even if it does not "wear" the paint... there is a different
: problem.
:
: Note that even a tied-down airplane "rocks" in the wind.
: All night, the tarp moves against the wing... creak, creak,
: creak. I did the over-the-wing ONCE... never again!
: Even if the noise does not bother you... it may bother your
: neighbors, who will ensure that your tarp-over-the-wing
: blows away in the next wind storm. :-)
:
: Best regards,
:
: Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocations!"
: --
:


I agree with that one. This was my first year flyin camping, and I did the over the wing tamp thing, and then got up at
3 in the morning and took it all down. Flapping in the breeze all night long. Didn't put it back up and was dumped on
Tuesday night, a little rain in the corners but the tent held...

"Longworth" wrote in message ups.com...
:
: Ron Natalie wrote:
: We camp relatively light. Tent, air mattress, sleeping bags, towels
: (and soap and whatever else you'll need for the showers), couple of
: folding chairs, small apparatus for making coffee in the morning,
: and a case of wine, four glasses and a corkscrew.
:
: Ron,
: We also find the espresso maker indispensable for camping. I can
: not see standing in line for a cup of lukewarm dishwater or making do
: with some awful instant coffee in the morning. For this camping trip,
: we drew the line at bringing some wine bottles and real glasses but had
: done so in the past. One year, I packed a very good bottle of wine, 4
: glasses, a corkscrew, some cheeses, crackers and fruits in a backpack
: and hiked up a mountain with some friends. We had a fabulous picnic at
: the summit. It was definitely worth the hassle.
: By the way, what do you use for a camp stove. We have used a
: two-burner liquid fuel Coleman stove for years but it is kind of bulky
: and heavy for a plane. I'm thinking of replacing it with a
: single-burner multi fuel backpacking stove and will have to do some
: reseach.
:
: Hai Longworth
:


We bought a 'JetBoil' and it is great! Hot water for instant coffee in just
about as long as it takes me to type this out...

http://www.jetboil.com/

We bought the group cooking system and the personal cooking system...

If you have a high-winged plane, you can pitch the tent under the
wing. I saw several people putting a tarp over the wing (tying it down
with some ropes and tent stakes) thus further rainproofing the tent
from both sides. This is something that we will definitely adopt in our
next camping trip this coming weekend at the Cardinal flyin at Mt
Washington Regional Airport (HIE), Whitefield, NH. Bruce Hutchings,
the airport manager had just emailed me telling us that we could either
camp with our plane in the field or in a nearby campsite.

Does your tent fit under the wing, especially a Cardinal which sits
lower to the ground? I long ago got a tent with stand up head room.

john,
The link does not work, how about using make a shorter link?

Okay, try this one...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D43E3168D

What do you think of MSR Simmerlite? The MSR Dragonfly which can
burn leaded gas (avgas?), diesel, kerosene etc. sounds great but is is
noisy and heavy.

I bought a Simmerlight two years ago and love it.
It packs up small and I can get two-and-a-half days use from a 1/2-liter
SIGG bottle of white gas when cooking for two. One thing I added to my
stove kit is an eyedropper to dispense the priming fuel. This is easier
and safer to control than pumping the bottle and opening the valve.
Maybe as noisy as one of the burners on your current stove. You will
want to carry a windscreen.

MSR sells a really heavy gauge aluminum foil reuseable windscreen, or
you can make your own from the heavy gauge aluminum foil you buy at the
grocery store.

I also have the Trilium base to attach to the bottom of the Simmerlight.
This makes it very stable with a two-liter pot and it folds up to a
compact form.

I think I have six stoves.
- a SVEA 123 that is 30 years old and still going strong
- an MSR GK that is 25 years old and is terrific for winter camping
- an MSR Simmerlite
- an ESBIT Pocket stove in my survival kit
- a COLEMAN single burner, white gas stove; about four years old, old
style, got it for my son for Boy Scouts, works well... good high heat
and simmer
- a big ??-thousand BTU propane stove with a 10-pound travel tank that
lasts a week at OSH, with enough for another couple days left in the
tank.
I have been backpacking for 35 years, so I have quite a collection of
gear. The past six years I have been updating to lightweight. I have cut
my load down to 25-30 pounds (less food and water) for a five-day outing.

Tarp over the wing...

Did it the first time. When I saw how much damage it was doing I decided
on another option I have been using since.
EUREKA sells an assortment of poles. I purchased two sets of heavy
adjustable ones and ridgepoles to go between them.
The first year I also purchased a cheap blue tarp. The first wind pulled
grommets out. The second wind tore the edging from the tarp. It went in
the dumpster at OSH.
The following year I paid the premium for the heavy duty silver/brown
tarp (24'x12'). I have had it the last five years. I do take it down
when I leave camp in the morning and use it to cover the other gear in
case it rains.
I will find some pictures to post.

Newps wrote:

Does your tent fit under the wing, especially a Cardinal which sits
lower to the ground? I long ago got a tent with stand up head room.

Our new tent is just a small 3 person dome tent so it fits easily
under the Cardinal wings as you can see in my Oshkosh pictures

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U12A2148D
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E13A6448D

Our old tent long ago also had standup head room. It was a heavy
duty tent with aluminum poles which had lasted many years but it took
some time to fit all the pole sections together and set up the tent.
The newer dome-type tent with fiberglass poles are much lighter and
easier to setup. The lower profile is also less susceptible to being
blown over by strong winds. We don't really miss the head room that
much.

Hai Longworth