ATC subtle hints

Jim Macklin wrote:
Do you think the DEA will bother to tell the suspect pilot
that they need the logbooks to enter the new W&B for the
tracking device they have installed?

Of course not.
I just get annoyed when people, especially the government, don't follow
the rules.
I know, get used to it.

I should have been well south of the Vance 1B MOA. Just incase I wandered off I
was 2,500 ft below the floor. I was between El Reno, OK (F28) and the Kingfisher
VOR (IFI).

It was a busy Friday afternoon, maybe she was thinking about dropping.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:46:49 -0500, Emily wrote:

GeorgeC wrote:
I hear one the other day that I don't know the translation. I was practicing
maneuvers with flight following. When approach control ask "N#, how long do you
plan on being in that area?" I told her I was heading back to the airport. She
said OK and gave me a frequency change (approach control).

GeorgeC
Were you in a inactive MOA or the like? Maybe she just wanted to know
how long she needed to alert others to your presence..

GeorgeC

"GeorgeC" wrote in message
...
I should have been well south of the Vance 1B MOA. Just incase I wandered off I
was 2,500 ft below the floor. I was between El Reno, OK (F28) and the
Kingfisher
VOR (IFI).

It was a busy Friday afternoon, maybe she was thinking about dropping.

I'll bet that was it. You will never know, though. :-(

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:46:49 -0500, Emily wrote:

GeorgeC wrote:
I hear one the other day that I don't know the translation. I was practicing
maneuvers with flight following. When approach control ask "N#, how long do
you
plan on being in that area?" I told her I was heading back to the airport.
She
said OK and gave me a frequency change (approach control).

GeorgeC
Were you in a inactive MOA or the like? Maybe she just wanted to know
how long she needed to alert others to your presence..

GeorgeC

On 2006-10-14, kontiki wrote:
I really get a kick out of how subtle ATC can be sometimes in giving those
little "hints" to some pilots.

Not quite the same, but one time I had just departed and was heading
towards Portland's class C while climbing to an altitude where they'd
be able to pick me up on radar. A flurry of radio transmission delayed
my callup and ended with me being pointed out as traffic for a Southwest
737. After that exchange I keyed up to get flight following and gave
my location as "I think I'm that traffic". Simplified giving my location,
but I always wondered if the guy on the other end was thinking, "Why
is this guy on my frequency waiting to call in until he's got a conflict??"

I guess they got me back, since on the return I was flying up the Columbia
and had negotiated a transition along the river past the airport. Right
after that I was handed off to another controller who immediately turned
me 90 degrees so I'd cross midfield.

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"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Do you think the DEA will bother to tell the suspect
pilot
| that they need the logbooks to enter the new W&B for the
| tracking device they have installed?
|
| Of course not.
| I just get annoyed when people, especially the government,
don't follow
| the rules.
| I know, get used to it.

Emily wrote:

Because I am masochist, I decided it would be fun to fly a partial panel
single engine NDB approach at my home airport one day.

I remember having to do one of those on my instrument check ride. :^0

randall g wrote:

?? How would the DEA get a chance to do that? Do they get a warrant to
break into a suspect aircraft and install additional avionics?


Warrants? We don't need no stinkin' warrants.

sorry... they're
"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:KsoYg.3031$XX2.1314@dukeread04...
| Chester: excitedly, "Mr. Dillon, Mr. Dillon, [their] going
to
| rob the stage when it gets out of town! What shall we do?"
| Marshal Dillon: " Have the passengers surrender their
guns
| to avoid violence."
|
|
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| "Emily" wrote in message
| . ..
|| Jim Macklin wrote:
|| Do you think the DEA will bother to tell the suspect
| pilot
|| that they need the logbooks to enter the new W&B for
the
|| tracking device they have installed?
||
|| Of course not.
|| I just get annoyed when people, especially the
government,
| don't follow
|| the rules.
|| I know, get used to it.
|
|

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:53:49 GMT, randall g wrote:

?? How would the DEA get a chance to do that? Do they get a warrant to
break into a suspect aircraft and install additional avionics?


it is the GOVERNMENT. Homeland Security and such. Get used to it!
It is to protect you against terrorism. And if you don't have to hide
anything you will not object, will you?

#m
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In article ,
says...


Mike Adams wrote:
Emily wrote:

My favorite subtle hint is, "N#, say altitude."

Or have them tell you the altimeter setting, as if that's the reason for
the altitude discrepancy. (Yea, that must be the reason)

One night Champaign Approach just wouldn't get off my back. He started
by giving me the altimeter, which I had just received when Indy Center
had handed me off. I shook my head, looked at the altimeter, yes, it's
correct. Five minutes later, "N#, recycle your mode C." Huh? By
this time my altitude, which admittedly had been 50 feet off, was dead
on and my friend and I were both pretty confused. Approach then called
another two aircraft, gave them the altimeter setting, and asked them to
recycle. Another huh. Five minutes later he called me back and asked
altitude...I replied 6000. He replies back, "Oh, ok. Because I have
you at 900 and two other aircraft at 650, so I was just wondering what
was going on."




Years ago, as a student in an older 172, doing one of the X-C requirement
flights, I forgot to reset the DG to the mag compass before takeoff. As luck
would have it, it was off by more than 30 degrees. After takeoff, I knew
something was wrong, but I wasn't sure what. I dutifully called center for
VFR flight following, then continued to wrack my pea-sized brain to figure
out why I wasn't seeing the same landmarks I had seen on my way into that
airport. After a few minutes, as I was about to wander into a Class C outer
area, ATC called and asked me "Please say intended itinerary to x" I told
them exactly what it said on my flight log, and they replied "Got it, thank
you" They didn't say any more - they didn't need to say any more. I made a
slow turn to the left, and in turning I recognized enough terrain features to
understand approximately what direction I needed to be going. After pointing
the plane in approximately this direction, it dawned on me what the error
was, and I was able to quickly orient my present location (brushing up
against a busy Class C) and get back on track.

GF