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  #41  
Old November 21st 06, 06:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John T
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"Judah" wrote in message


I should point out the E520 is only a E6400 chip, instead of E6600
chip. I'm not much of a gamer, but I suspect you won't notice the
difference.
Frankly, I suspect you might not have noticed the difference between
that and a E6300, but for $50 a few more hundred MHz is probably
worthwhile...


Another difference: The E6600 has a 4MB cache while the E6400 has half that.

I also recommend the Sonata or Sonata II "silent" case from Antec. Combined
with the factory cooler on the E6600 and a passively cooled Gigabyte video
card, my system is damned near silent - even when rendering video.

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15139
http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2235

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  #42  
Old November 21st 06, 07:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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Top posting, unusually.

I didn't see an operating system included. I would think it wise to get
XP Pro, since this is a MS game that will be used.


Look at the second item in Judah's list (the list you quoted when you top
posted).


Shoot! I read that twice, looking for that. I guess I did not know there was a
media center edition.

The Media Center Edition is fine (and may even be desirable). Though,
personally I think anyone buying a Windows operating system today should make
sure that part of the deal is a voucher for a free upgrade to Vista. I can't
say whether Vista will or will not be a major improvement, but one thing is
for su it is the new standard for Windows PCs, and it would be silly today
to spend the $100 (or whatever) on a copy of XP, when it's already basically
obsolete.


I thought that Vista was going to be a yearly fee license. I would stick with
XP, I think! That sucks, IMHO
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  #43  
Old November 21st 06, 02:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Judah wrote in news:Xns9881ED410721AJudahnospamnet@
69.28.186.158:

The free Vista Upgrade was listed on the third line. It was free.


Although I just noticed it's an upgrade to Vista Home, not Vista Pro. I'm
somewhat surprised, because XP Media Edition is based on XP Pro...

Might be worth a few bucks if they want it for Vista Pro upgrade
voucher...
I'm not up to date with the different Vista flavors - will they have a
Vista
Media Center? Will it be based on Vista Pro?


The differences between the home and pro versions of Vista will be different
than that of the XP pro and home. In the case of Vista it will be more a
business and home.

The Media center features will be active in the Home version.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx


  #44  
Old November 21st 06, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I also recommend the Sonata or Sonata II "silent" case from Antec. Combined
with the factory cooler on the E6600 and a passively cooled Gigabyte video
card, my system is damned near silent - even when rendering video.


Well, John, and everyone -- thanks for the great advice!

I met with the owner of our locally-owned computer shop (NeoComputers
-- see them he http://www.neocomputers.com) and explained to him
what I was trying to do.

I then went on to explain how we attract a nice crowd of aviation
enthusiasts every Tuesday night -- and a goodly share of them are
high-end computer users who would benefit by knowing about his
store(s).

I told him that I didn't feel "right" using Best Buy or Dell for such a
locally-oriented project. I then offered to put signs up in our
theater that say something along the lines of "The Kiwi -- Powered by
NeoComputers", in exchange for him building a "God Gaming System" for
me -- at his cost.

He loved the idea, and immediately agreed to do this. It should be
done by this time next week.

I, of course, then proceeded to lose my mind further, and authorized
him to upgrade the components until the cost was still at my "mentally
accepted" price of $1500.

This is all starting to feel waaaaay too much like REAL aviation...

;-)

For those who care, here are some of the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHZ LGA 775 E6600
ASUS P5 LGA 75 965 DDR2 2 MB
2 GB DDR2 PC5300 667 Memory
ASUS EN7900GTX 512MB DDR3 PCI-E (video card)
AGI 500 watt power supply
Sound Blaster Audigy card
....plus the usual floppy drive and CD/DVD burner. I stayed with a 160
GB hard drive, figuring that'll keep us happy for now. (This machine
will be used ONLY for flight simming...)

NeoComputers will set it up and tweak it to run at peak speed, and
covers it with a 3-year warranty. The Kiwi is REALLY going to fly
now...and you guys can come fly it anytime you'd like!

Thanks again!
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  #45  
Old November 21st 06, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
fromTheShadows[_3_]
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Jay Honeck wrote:
The Kiwi is REALLY going to fly
now...and you guys can come fly it anytime you'd like!

Thanks again!
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Hi Jay,

So how long before you decide to go the whole hog and get yourself one
of these?

http://www.classicflight.co.uk/Motors.htm

If only I had the time, space, money... )
Cheers,

Craig
  #46  
Old November 21st 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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The Kiwi is REALLY going to fly
now...and you guys can come fly it anytime you'd like!


So how long before you decide to go the whole hog and get yourself one
of these?

http://www.classicflight.co.uk/Motors.htm


Whoo-ee! THAT would be cool.

Although I'm not really sure that full-motion is all that important.
It's fun to watch people flying the Kiwi, from behind. WIth that big
screen, they lean this way and that, just like they're in a real plane!
It feels very much like you're moving, even though you're not...
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  #47  
Old November 21st 06, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 21 Nov 2006 07:09:20 -0800, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in . com:

I stayed with a 160
GB hard drive, figuring that'll keep us happy for now.


Have you considered the speed advantage of a SCSI HDD? More often
than not, it is the HDD that slows a computer system's response time;
they are never fast enough, IMO.
  #48  
Old November 21st 06, 06:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default OT - Kiwi Computer System Upgrade (Was: OT - Video Card Questions)

More often than not, it is the HDD that
slows a computer system's response time...


Antivirus software puts a tremendous load on the system too. McAfee
does me in by a factor of ten.

Jose
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  #49  
Old November 21st 06, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Larry,

Recently, Larry Dighera posted:

On 21 Nov 2006 07:09:20 -0800, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in . com:

I stayed with a 160
GB hard drive, figuring that'll keep us happy for now.


Have you considered the speed advantage of a SCSI HDD? More often
than not, it is the HDD that slows a computer system's response time;
they are never fast enough, IMO.

In this type of application, I doubt that there would be any benefit to a
SCSI HDD. SCSI drives show performance advantages in applications that
require random read/write operations involving larger amounts of data, as
is the case with video editing or scientific modelling. In contrast,
flight sim read operations are usually sequential, for example loading the
next sector in the area display, and as many ATA /Serial ATA HDDs come
with sizeable cache memory, there shouldn't be "glitching" due to HDD data
transfer rates under normal usage.

Neil


  #50  
Old November 21st 06, 07:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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[...]
I thought that Vista was going to be a yearly fee license. I would stick
with XP, I think! That sucks, IMHO


No, not for consumers. Microsoft has for years had subscription licenses to
a variety of their products, and Vista will have that option as well. But
end-users are going to have the usual "pay once" license.

Of course, with product activation, there's no such thing as a perpetual
license anymore. So you do effectively have a subscription...you just pay
for it once, and it runs out whenever Microsoft decides you should stop
using their software (well, you can keep using it until the first time you
have to reinstall it, anyway).

Pete


 




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