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Old November 26th 06, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Doug[_1_]
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Jay, you sound like one of these guys "who just can't understand how
somebody could be DIFFERENT than you are". I mean, just HOW could that
be???

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Old November 26th 06, 06:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
mike regish
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Thank you. He just doesn't seem to get this concept.

mike

"Doug" wrote in message
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Jay, you sound like one of these guys "who just can't understand how
somebody could be DIFFERENT than you are". I mean, just HOW could that
be???



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Old November 26th 06, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Jay, you sound like one of these guys "who just can't understand how
somebody could be DIFFERENT than you are". I mean, just HOW could that
be???


No, that's not it. I understand that humans are all uniquely wired,
and that different folks are interested in different things.

However, I simply can't understand any sentient being passing up the
opportunity to do something unusual, educational, affordable,
challenging, and fun, in a safe, friendly environment.

This young lady was offered the chance to do something that very few
people will *ever* get to do, doing something that many would give
anything to experience. Her refusal to take the yoke was an unusual
display of timid behavior coming from someone who is normally far from
timid -- which is why I remain puzzled and post my experience here.

Your saying, by way of explanation, that "Everyone is different" only
states the obvious, but doesn't really address the situation or explain
the experience.
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Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old November 26th 06, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
No, that's not it. I understand that humans are all uniquely wired,
and that different folks are interested in different things.


No, you obviously don't understand that.

However, I simply can't understand any sentient being passing up the
opportunity to do something unusual, educational, affordable,
challenging, and fun, in a safe, friendly environment.


Your description of the activity includes a variety of subjective terms. If
you truly understood that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you'd also understand that your
passenger may not necessarily agree with your labels.

It would be hard to argue with "unusual" (unless she's a often-passenger,
who flies other airplanes all the time) or "affordable" (it's my assumption
it would cost her nothing). But all of the other words you've used, they
are highly subject to one's perspective. You view the activity that way,
and expect everyone else to.

But not everyone shares your opinion.

This young lady was offered the chance to do something that very few
people will *ever* get to do, doing something that many would give
anything to experience. Her refusal to take the yoke was an unusual
display of timid behavior coming from someone who is normally far from
timid -- which is why I remain puzzled and post my experience here.

Your saying, by way of explanation, that "Everyone is different" only
states the obvious, but doesn't really address the situation or explain
the experience.


It's the best explanation anyone here can offer. You have to ask your
passenger if you want more specific information.

However, it seems to me that until you open your mind to what it means to
TRULY understand that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you are unlikely to have a
productive conversation with her. You're unlikely to comprehend what she
actually tells you, if you cannot get past the idea that she simply may not
characterize the activity using the same terms you do.

Pete


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Old November 26th 06, 11:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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However, it seems to me that until you open your mind to what it means to
TRULY understand that "humans are all uniquely wired, and that different
folks are interested in different things", you are unlikely to have a
productive conversation with her. You're unlikely to comprehend what she
actually tells you, if you cannot get past the idea that she simply may not
characterize the activity using the same terms you do.


I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old November 26th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...


I have an extremely hard time comprehending them too. But I do accept that
such people exist, and that no matter how hard I try, there will be an
inherent inability on my part to truly see the world through their eyes.

I'm not sure "mis-wired" is the right term. After all, that implies
something wrong with them. But certainly, they are outside my realm of
experience.

Pete


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Old November 27th 06, 12:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
mike regish
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There goes that foot...

All the way to the knee this time, Jay?

mike

Oh yeah...:-)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

;-)
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Old November 27th 06, 01:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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I guess you're right.

Did I just hear Jay Honeck say that? i just lost a fortune on air
conditioning stock in Hades.

I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...


At least you didn't say "miss-wired".

g,d Jose
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Old November 27th 06, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Doug[_1_]
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I love to fly, but I'm mis-wired. Not perfect like you.

Jay Honeck wrote:
I guess you're right. I just think people who don't love to fly are
mis-wired...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 27th 06, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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When I was in the 8th grade, I was madly "in love" with
Patti Jo. At the graduation party she actually came up to
me and asked me if I want to dance. Since there were 40
some witnesses present who could talk about my clumsiness I
said no. That has bothered me for more than 40 years.
Just to prove the point, the worst landing I ever made was
with 3 FAA Inspectors on the airplane.



"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Jay, you sound like one of these guys "who just can't
understand how
| somebody could be DIFFERENT than you are". I mean, just
HOW could that
| be???
|
| No, that's not it. I understand that humans are all
uniquely wired,
| and that different folks are interested in different
things.
|
| However, I simply can't understand any sentient being
passing up the
| opportunity to do something unusual, educational,
affordable,
| challenging, and fun, in a safe, friendly environment.
|
| This young lady was offered the chance to do something
that very few
| people will *ever* get to do, doing something that many
would give
| anything to experience. Her refusal to take the yoke was
an unusual
| display of timid behavior coming from someone who is
normally far from
| timid -- which is why I remain puzzled and post my
experience here.
|
| Your saying, by way of explanation, that "Everyone is
different" only
| states the obvious, but doesn't really address the
situation or explain
| the experience.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
| Pathfinder N56993
|


 




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