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Old December 13th 06, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Andrew Gideon
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:08:20 +0000, David Kazdan wrote:

"600 G maneuvers."


You're using those new spars made from Impossibilium, I see.

- Andrew

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Old December 13th 06, 08:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 07:08:36 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

I've seen reactions like that quite frequently, too. People don't like to
admit that they may not be special.


We are special. It's not for what we can do, but what we choose to do.
Anyone is free to make the same choice. What makes us special is that we
choose properly.

(not that I'm biased or anything {8^)

- Andrew

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Old December 13th 06, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:49:12 -0700, Jay Beckman wrote:

I sure wish I'd had someone to take me flying at that age...how great for
you both!


My wife, my 4 year-old son and I feel fortunate that we can share aviation
with him. We're all lucky!

And we've a 1 year old who is already zooming toy airplanes around the
house, getting ready for his first ride (I need to remember to start him
on the headset indoctrination program I invented for his older brother).

But I was at a party a couple of nights ago where there happened to be a
pair of lapsed pilots. One has kids! So sad, the opportunity being
wasted.

- Andrew

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Old December 13th 06, 08:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:57:37 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

hen the fellow let me take the controls. We went up and down (gingerly)
and turned left and right (gingerly). Now that we were straight and level
(more or less) I began to get a little green around the gills.


That's pretty odd. One sure-fire cure for nausea I've found is to have
the ill passenger take the controls. The only time it didn't work is
when the passenger in question refused.

This is the first time I've heard of someone feeling ill from taking the
controls.

Any idea why?

- Andrew

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Old December 13th 06, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:56:05 -0500, Dudley Henriques wrote:

Pilots should
be especially aware of even the smallest detail and be constantly alert to
anything at all that might be upsetting to a new passenger.


What you should definitely not do is say something like "oh, damn" and
pull the power. Even if you're climbing through your assigned altitude,
that's still not a good way to generate repeat business.

Fortunately, I've an understanding friend (who pretends to believe lies
like "I meant to do that" {8^).

- Andrew

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Old December 13th 06, 09:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On 12/13/06 12:26, Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:57:37 -0500, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

hen the fellow let me take the controls. We went up and down (gingerly)
and turned left and right (gingerly). Now that we were straight and level
(more or less) I began to get a little green around the gills.


That's pretty odd. One sure-fire cure for nausea I've found is to have
the ill passenger take the controls. The only time it didn't work is
when the passenger in question refused.

This is the first time I've heard of someone feeling ill from taking the
controls.

Any idea why?

- Andrew


When I was first practicing maneuvers (especially steep turns), I would
get really airsick - I remember asking my instructor to leave that practice
for the end of the flight, so I could get on the ground quickly after we
finished them. - I was at the controls the entire time.

I did get over it, though, but it took a while.



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Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old December 13th 06, 09:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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(I need to remember to start him
on the headset indoctrination program I invented for his older brother).


Do tell!

Jose
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Old December 13th 06, 10:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
hen the fellow let me take the controls. We went up and down (gingerly)
and turned left and right (gingerly). Now that we were straight and level
(more or less) I began to get a little green around the gills.


That's pretty odd. One sure-fire cure for nausea I've found is to have
the ill passenger take the controls. The only time it didn't work is
when the passenger in question refused.

This is the first time I've heard of someone feeling ill from taking the
controls.

Any idea why?



I don't think it had anything to do with me taking the controls. I think it was
the end of the aerobatics (and the adrenalin rush) that caused it. I have a
mental image of fluid swishing around the semicircular canals in my inner ear
during the aerobatics, but at least it agreed with what was happening. Then we
were straight and level, but the fluid was still swishing around. The
incongruity caused the nausea.

At least that's my theory. It may just be so much crap.



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Old December 13th 06, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mark Hansen
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On 12/13/06 14:07, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Andrew Gideon wrote:
hen the fellow let me take the controls. We went up and down (gingerly)
and turned left and right (gingerly). Now that we were straight and level
(more or less) I began to get a little green around the gills.


That's pretty odd. One sure-fire cure for nausea I've found is to have
the ill passenger take the controls. The only time it didn't work is
when the passenger in question refused.

This is the first time I've heard of someone feeling ill from taking the
controls.

Any idea why?



I don't think it had anything to do with me taking the controls. I think it was
the end of the aerobatics (and the adrenalin rush) that caused it. I have a
mental image of fluid swishing around the semicircular canals in my inner ear
during the aerobatics, but at least it agreed with what was happening. Then we
were straight and level, but the fluid was still swishing around. The
incongruity caused the nausea.

At least that's my theory. It may just be so much crap.


Maybe, but craps been known to cause nausea as well ;-)


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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old December 13th 06, 10:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mark Hansen writes:

When I was first practicing maneuvers (especially steep turns), I would
get really airsick - I remember asking my instructor to leave that practice
for the end of the flight, so I could get on the ground quickly after we
finished them. - I was at the controls the entire time.


Did you turn your head in banks so that you were still normal to the
aircraft, or did you tilt it so that it was actually upright and the
aircraft tilted below you?

And did this change after you got over the airsickness?

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