Contact Approach -- WX reporting

The pilot
is not supposed to request or begin an approach if the
weather is below visibility minimums.

Actually, that's 135 only, no? Part 91 pilots may begin an approach
irrespective of the weather.

Jose
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karl gruber wrote:


I don't think I'd try to get a clearance from Approach Control. I'd deal
diectly with tower. I "think" I've done this...at Portland. It was handled
just like a special VFR, only it was a contact approach. It was on a scud
run down I-5 from Seattle. I know, this is an IFR clearance, but you make it
sound dificult when all it is is a tower call. PDX tower, Piper 7777Z, 5NW,
request contact approach.

Bam!...........in there.

A class C tower could easily do that. Call up about 6 miles out and if
there's no traffic I can issue you a clearance as the tower controllers
at class C's are approach controllers. However you still have to meet
the normal constraints of an IFR clearance.

karl gruber wrote:





No. You can just get one from tower, JUST lke special VFR.


I understand that but you still have to meet the IFR clearance
requirement of an IFR clearance, notably terrain.

Jose wrote:

The pilot is not supposed to request or begin an approach if the
weather is below visibility minimums.


Actually, that's 135 only, no? Part 91 pilots may begin an approach
irrespective of the weather.

Right, they are just not allowed to land if the viz requirements aren't
met. Routinely disregarded.

"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
I understand that but you still have to meet the IFR clearance requirement
of an IFR clearance, notably terrain.

In general, I like to avoid the terrain..............except landing!

Karl

karl gruber wrote:

Nope, it can be a tower call. I've done it.


Only if approach control functions are being provided from the tower.
Things are not always what they seem.

karl gruber wrote:

Nope, it can be a tower call. I've done it.


Only if approach control functions are being provided from the tower.
Things are not always what they seem.

Once past the FAF, the pilot becomes the sole authority on
the landing since only the pilot can determine flight
visibility. An aircraft using an N number can be issued an
approach clearance right down to zero-zero. A Tango
November or airline call sign will prompt a denial or query
about the legal status of the flight.


"Newps" wrote in message
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|
|
| Jose wrote:
|
| The pilot is not supposed to request or begin an
approach if the
| weather is below visibility minimums.
|
|
| Actually, that's 135 only, no? Part 91 pilots may begin
an approach
| irrespective of the weather.
|
| Right, they are just not allowed to land if the viz
requirements aren't
| met. Routinely disregarded.

Stan Prevost wrote:

Does that include automated weather observations?


Yes.

Right, they are just not allowed to land if the viz requirements aren't met. Routinely disregarded.

Yes, but for 91, it's flight visibility. The pilot can evaluate that.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
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