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Old December 22nd 06, 05:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kev writes:

Every time a plane gets into trouble, talking news heads are "shocked"
that the pilot wasn't talking to air traffic control, or didn't have
their permission. Just look at the hubbub over the Cirrus-building
crash recently in New York City.


My mistake. The last time I was in the U.S., it was still a free
country.

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Old December 22nd 06, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kev writes:

If I see another movie where the engines stall, and the airplane starts
screaming down at high speed to the ground while the pilots valiantly
pull back on the yokes with all their might, I'm gonna choke.


A very common popular misconception is that any problem with an
airplane will cause it to drop to the ground like a rock. The idea
seems to be that an aircraft is just barely being sustained in the
air, and that any problem is rather like cutting the cable in an
elevator shaft.

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Old December 22nd 06, 09:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic,

It often is these days.


It never is, these days, in civilian aircraft. Once again, you have no
clue.

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Old December 22nd 06, 02:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Mxsmanic,

It often is these days.


It never is, these days, in civilian aircraft. Once again, you have no
clue.


I dunno Thomas.. You might get a Level 4 or 5 return in the vicinity of
another acft... just before plowing into them : )

But, yes... our friend has shown hisself to be sans clue again sigh

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Old December 22nd 06, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Another of those unreliable AC engines stalled on approach

In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

It often is these days.


It never is, these days, in civilian aircraft. Once again, you have no
clue.


I don't believe I'm doing this but....

um, wx radar isn't used for traffic avoidance. However, the TCAS II
system (which includes the Mode S IFF) is in fact a radar system
(radio detection and ranging). The TCAS processor interogates
and the transponder replies.

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  #46  
Old December 23rd 06, 09:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob,

However, the TCAS II
system (which includes the Mode S IFF) is in fact a radar system
(radio detection and ranging).


Ah, Usenet!

I know all that. And I knew someone would play semantics.

When I wrote "onboard radar" I was thinking about good old primary
radar. You know why? Context. The average layman has no idea about the
workings of TCAS. He's thinking about that big antenna in the nose of
the airplane. That is what they think detects traffic. And that is
strictly for weather (and ground).

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Old December 23rd 06, 01:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

[snip]
I know all that. And I knew someone would play semantics.


:-)


When I wrote "onboard radar" I was thinking about good old primary
radar. You know why? Context. The average layman has no idea about the
workings of TCAS. He's thinking about that big antenna in the nose of
the airplane. That is what they think detects traffic. And that is
strictly for weather (and ground).


btw (flogging the dead horse even more), on some military aircraft, there
is a variant of a commercial weather radar system that is used to detect
other aircraft. The system's primary (no pun) purpose is still weather
detection and depiction, but it also has a skin paint mode.

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Old December 23rd 06, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob,

;-)

Merry Christmas


To you (and all others) too!


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Old December 23rd 06, 07:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert writes:

When I wrote "onboard radar" I was thinking about good old primary
radar. You know why? Context. The average layman has no idea about the
workings of TCAS.


It appears that the average layman isn't the only one afflicted by
ignorance.

He's thinking about that big antenna in the nose of the airplane.


Very few lay people have any belief that there is a big antenna
anywhere in an aircraft.

That is what they think detects traffic. And that is
strictly for weather (and ground).


Antennas can serve many purposes, and in many locations.

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Old December 23rd 06, 08:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic,

It appears that the average layman isn't the only one afflicted by
ignorance.


Don't worry, you definitely count as a layman. Maybe not average,
though.

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