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Kev writes:
*laughing* My first thought was, he's talking about you getting married, having three kids, and afterwards being too broke to fly :-) Only one of many possibilities. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Even if you end up losing the ability to fly as a result? How exactly will my ability to fly be affected by that article in USA Today? |
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Judah writes:
People spend similar amounts of money on cigarettes. I believe a plane is more useful than cigarettes. Not to heavy smokers. People spend less money on childbirth. I believe a child is more useful than a car, a plane, or a cigarette. Useful? I suppose if there are no child labor laws. But value is personal. And spending priorities even moreso. What you or I think about how someone else should spend their money is irrelevant. The problem is that people who don't share your preferences may find them unacceptable or excessive. So it might not be a good idea to advertise them. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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I got a 4 seater for $17,500.
mike "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Judah writes: They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000, although one can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that. That's still $200,000. For most people, it might as well be $200,000,000. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Judah writes: People spend similar amounts of money on cigarettes. I believe a plane is more useful than cigarettes. Not to heavy smokers. Exactly - beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... People spend less money on childbirth. I believe a child is more useful than a car, a plane, or a cigarette. Useful? I suppose if there are no child labor laws. Again, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... But value is personal. And spending priorities even moreso. What you or I think about how someone else should spend their money is irrelevant. The problem is that people who don't share your preferences may find them unacceptable or excessive. So it might not be a good idea to advertise them. No, the problem is that YOU don't share my preferences and find them unacceptable or excessive. And you think that the rest of the world feels the same way as you "because it's obvious" to you. But the fact is that there are hundreds of millions of people in the US, and perhaps 6 Billion in the world, and you have no idea what their priorities are, or what they value. Perhaps there are people out there who have dreamt about flying since they were little boys or girls, but never heard of GA, and didn't know they could just hop on over to the airport and learn to fly. Perhaps they were never exposed to a story like the one in USA today. Is that so far-fetched? |
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![]() Mxsmanic wrote: writes: Oh, wait and see is it? Wait and see for what? The Y2K crash, or the ebola virus, or peak oil, global terrorism etc? Time will tell. The one sure thing in the world is change. Yep, things never go as planned - I agree. But as long as one keeps working toward their goals, the change seems to be for the better. |
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Judah writes:
How exactly will my ability to fly be affected by that article in USA Today? Public opinion shapes public policy and legislation. If public opinion were to turn against general aviation, GA might simply be outlawed. The vast majority of the population would be unaffected and wouldn't care. Similar things have happened in the past. Seemingly positive stories about GA don't help if the average reader feels excluded by them, and they may actually hurt by bringing a rich man's hobby to the attention of the average person. "You mean people are allowed to fly around freely in their own planes?? That's dangerous!" might well be the reaction. The next step is to forbid people to fly in their own planes, removing that dangerous minority from the air. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Judah writes:
No, the problem is that YOU don't share my preferences and find them unacceptable or excessive. Actually, I'm quite interested in aviation. But I'm an exception to the rule. People who don't fly don't care, and would cheerfully sign a prohibition on flying with even slight provocation. Noise from aircraft over their houses? Forbid flying. Jessica Dubroff dead? Forbid flying. A baseball player nearly killing people in their homes in Manhattan? Forbid flying. Be careful what you wish for. Informing people of something that you know about doesn't mean that they will have the same opinion of it as you do. What seems like a great hobby to you may seem like a dangerous practice that should be outlawed to them. And you think that the rest of the world feels the same way as you "because it's obvious" to you. No, I'm simply very good at seeing other points of view, and thus very prudent about trying to promote my own. But the fact is that there are hundreds of millions of people in the US, and perhaps 6 Billion in the world, and you have no idea what their priorities are, or what they value. On the contrary, human behavior in large populations is pretty consistent and predictable, as many politicians know so well. If you plan to put yourself or your ideas in the public eye, you need to understand how that behavior works. Perhaps there are people out there who have dreamt about flying since they were little boys or girls, but never heard of GA, and didn't know they could just hop on over to the airport and learn to fly. Maybe, but they are a tiny minority at best. There are also many more people who couldn't care less about flying who may start to wonder about the safety of having people zipping around in tiny planes above them once they learn that it is happening. Is that so far-fetched? No, but it is a very skewed view, dangerously so, in fact. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:50:20 -0800, sam.trask wrote:
Yep, things never go as planned - I agree. What if one plans for plans not going as planned? |
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