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  #41  
Old April 21st 07, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:44:46 GMT, "Blueskies"
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See: http://tinyurl.com/32xsat

or:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...des%20Closures

"The FAA reauthorization legislation sent to Congress this month calls for establishment of a commission to recommend
the closing or consolidation of certain FAA facilities, similar in structure and mission to the Base Realignment and
Closure (BRAC) organization that was used to shutter scores of Defense Department installations."


One problem with this whole concept is that we need to keep these facilities open and viable. This is not like the
downsizing after the Cold War where we had all sorts of excess capacity. The nonsense coming out of this administration
astounds me!



Apparently you aren't the only one:


http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,...613120,00.html
Friday, Apr. 20, 2007
Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush
By AP/ ROSS SNEYD
(MONTPELIER, Vt.) — Vermont senators voted Friday to call for the
impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, saying
their actions have raised "serious questions of constitutionality."

The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate — all six
Republicans in the chamber at the time and three Democrats voted
against it.

The resolution says Bush and Cheney's actions in the U.S. and abroad,
including in Iraq, "raise serious questions of constitutionality,
statutory legality, and abuse of the public trust."

"I think it's going to have a tremendous political effect, a
tremendous political effect on public discourse about what to do about
this president," said James Leas, a vocal advocate of withdrawing
troops from Iraq and impeaching Bush and Cheney.

Vermont lawmakers earlier voted to demand an immediate troop
withdrawal from Iraq in another non-binding resolution.

Democratic House Speaker Gaye Symington has kept a similar resolution
from reaching the floor in her chamber. She argued that an impeachment
resolution would be partisan and divisive and that it would distract
Washington from efforts to get the United States out of Iraq, which
she says is more important.

In the Senate, Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie had opposed the
resolution, but he was absent Friday. That left Democratic Senate
President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin in charge, and he immediately took up
the measure.

More than three dozen towns voted in favor of similar nonbinding
impeachment resolutions at their annual town meetings in March. State
lawmakers in Wisconsin and Washington have pushed for similar
resolutions.

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Old April 21st 07, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_3_]
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

You should also know that the Lieutenant Governor is a Republican and a
fighter pilot in the Vermont ANG, so, of course he would vote against the
proposal.



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Old April 21st 07, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:54:31 GMT, "Viperdoc"
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You should also know that the Lieutenant Governor is a Republican and a
fighter pilot in the Vermont ANG, so, of course he would vote against the
proposal.


But he didn't get an opportunity to vote.

The way I understand it, given these two quotes from the AP article
"The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate —" and
"In the Senate, Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie had opposed the
resolution, but he was absent Friday. That left Democratic Senate
President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin in charge, and he immediately took up
the measure.", there's not going to be any more votes cast.

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Old April 21st 07, 07:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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But he didn't get an opportunity to vote.

The way I understand it, given these two quotes from the AP article
"The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate -" and
"In the Senate, Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie had opposed the
resolution, but he was absent Friday. That left Democratic Senate
President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin in charge, and he immediately took up
the measure.", there's not going to be any more votes cast.


Just what is a "non-binding resolution"?


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Old April 21st 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilitieslike the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
But he didn't get an opportunity to vote.

The way I understand it, given these two quotes from the AP article
"The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate -" and
"In the Senate, Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie had opposed the
resolution, but he was absent Friday. That left Democratic Senate
President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin in charge, and he immediately took up
the measure.", there's not going to be any more votes cast.


Just what is a "non-binding resolution"?



A vote to make a political statement, but which has no other meaning or
force of law.

Matt
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Old April 21st 07, 07:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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A vote to make a political statement, but which has no other meaning or
force of law.


It's also an oxymoron.


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Old April 21st 07, 08:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:42:07 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .

But he didn't get an opportunity to vote.

The way I understand it, given these two quotes from the AP article
"The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate -" and
"In the Senate, Republican Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie had opposed the
resolution, but he was absent Friday. That left Democratic Senate
President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin in charge, and he immediately took up
the measure.", there's not going to be any more votes cast.


Just what is a "non-binding resolution"?


In this case, I'd characterize it as a statement of opinion by the
majority of Vermont senators.
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Old April 21st 07, 08:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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In this case, I'd characterize it as a statement of opinion by the
majority of Vermont senators.


Why do you suppose they don't call it that?


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Old April 21st 07, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:22:04 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .

In this case, I'd characterize it as a statement of opinion by the
majority of Vermont senators.


Why do you suppose they don't call it that?


I suppose it's because that's what the US Congress calls such things.
I know; why does the US Congress use that term, right?

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Old April 21st 07, 08:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default Vermont Senate: Impeach Bush (Was: Bush wants to close FAA facilities like the base closure initiative from the Reagan era...)

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:37:01 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote in :

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:22:04 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
. ..

In this case, I'd characterize it as a statement of opinion by the
majority of Vermont senators.


Why do you suppose they don't call it that?


I suppose it's because that's what the US Congress calls such things.
I know; why does the US Congress use that term, right?



http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...ng_resolution/
What's a nonbinding resolution?
By The Associated Press | February 13, 2007

A nonbinding resolution such as the one being debated on Iraq does
not have the force of law.

There are three kinds of congressional resolutions: simple,
concurrent and joint. Simple resolutions, approved by only one
chamber, and concurrent resolutions, by both chambers, often
express non-statutory opinion or concern the internal operations
of Congress and are usually nonbinding. ...

 




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