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  #41  
Old March 16th 07, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Man, you just can't enjoy a light moment can you...? I'm trying to be
positive for the guy. And it was also a play on a popular commercial,
your total lack of a sense of humor is quite depressing around these
parts.


Ryan, you are dealing with Larry -- the only known pilot who could
take offense at my offering free beer (and food) to our fellow pilots
on their way to Oshkosh, simply because it's, well, beer.

I know you already knew this, but you're looking for humor in the
wrong place.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #42  
Old March 16th 07, 04:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 16 Mar 2007 08:24:28 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in . com:

who could
take offense at my offering free beer (and food) to our fellow pilots
on their way to Oshkosh, simply because it's, well, beer.


Your memory is failing.

This is your article that sparked my requital:

From: "Jay Honeck"
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Oshkosh Bound? Free Beer in Iowa!
NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.217.229.103
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:13:08 GMT

Yes, for those pilots who are hot, tired, thirsty, and en route to
Oshkosh on Sunday, July 27th, Mary and I are holding our First
Annual Fly-In Pool Party at the Alexis Park Inn & Suites in Iowa
City, IA.!

Plug in "IOW" on your GPS, and high-tail it on in -- your flight
into OSH on Monday will be that much shorter (we're just 80
minutes from OSH in our Pathfinder), you'll arrived [sic] more
refreshed -- and, besides, where the heck ELSE are you gonna get
free beer en route to the Big Show, anyway?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993




I said it before*, and I'll say it again:

It was the 'en route' aspect of your 'free beer' advertisement
with which I took issue. Public perception of airmen might be
diminished by the thought of pilots enjoying intoxicating liquor
en route to Air Venture. This is a worldwide public forum after
all.


But you knew that was my motivation, or are you becoming forgetful?

*
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...3?dmode=source
  #43  
Old March 16th 07, 04:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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wrote)
Man, you just can't enjoy a light moment can you...? I'm trying to be
positive for the guy. And it was also a play on a popular commercial, your
total lack of a sense of humor is quite depressing around these parts.
It's one of those little intangibles that seperates us out from our
earth-bound breatheren.



You missed the boat on this one, Ryan. Larry was being whimsical, but it's
often a subtle whimsy with Larry.

.....more subtle.

.....more.

.....getting closer.

....a little more subtle.

.....more.

....almost there.


Montblack-comedy


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Old March 16th 07, 04:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Morgans wrote:
What'cha building, Bill?

An RV10. I've completed the Emp kit (tail feathers and tailcone) and
moving on to the quickbuild wings. A long way to go but a lot of
satisfying progress towards a very impressive machine.


Good luck, and stick-to-it.

With as many RV's as are out there, you can't be far off the mark! g

I'm pounding away...

There are a lot of RVs out there and that's one reason I'm building
one... good design and kit producing proficiency are pluses in my book.

Don't know if you follow the homebuilding thing and RVs in particular
but the RV10 is a different beast from most. The single digit RVs are
all fun flyers - fast, acrobatic, efficient. Great single person CC too
with an occasional passenger and matching tooth brushes. But not what
I'm after...

The RV10 is their first CC cruiser - 260HP, 4 seats, 1000lbs useful,
200mph, non-acro. A lot of transportation grade airplane for the
kit-built crowd. Quickbuild wings and fuse reduce the build time
substantially and there are a lot of 'pro' builders offering services
too. We're going to see a lot of these around soon. The people who
can't quite bite into a Cirrus (or a Lancair) are going to be chasing
this one.

Can you tell I'm excited?

Bill 'pound pound' Watson
aka Mauledriver

  #45  
Old March 16th 07, 11:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dana M. Hague
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:45:53 GMT, "BDS" wrote:

But it did absorb the so-called "fat" ultralights - they can now be
certified as LSA which only require a sport pilot license to fly...


Yes, and not necessarily a bad thing... but now they're finding just
how much money and hassle that is going to involve (compared to the
relative freedom of Part 103). Also some owners are having a hell of
a time geting their grandfathered aircraft inspected before the
deadline, because there just aren't enough inspectors.

However, the industry (and media) focus is not on the absorbed
ultralights, but on the [expensive] LSA aircraft which have more in
common with the GA aircraft than ultralights.

...they were hoping that the SP/LSA initiative would include a
re-definition of what an ultralight was. But that was never promised. In
fact, I believe the FAA specifically said that that was not being
considered.


No, and that IS a good thing. Part 103 never would been created in
this day and age, and any attempt to rewrite 103 would doubtless
result in a LOT less freedom.

Ultralight pilots are "finding nothing good about SP/LSA" because they will
no longer be able to operate outside of the CFRs without being noticed. I'm
not so sure that this is a bad thing.


No, it's not bad... and actually may well lead to a revitalization of
"true" ultralights, for all the pilots who don't want to deal with the
hassles of registration, licensing, etc., for whatever reason.

I've had a PPL for 30 years... but at the moment I'm flying
ultralights because it's just so much simpler-- and not all that
different from buzzing around the local area in the T-Craft I used to
own.

-Dana


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  #46  
Old March 16th 07, 11:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:08:52 -0400, Dana M. Hague
d(dash)m(dash)hague(at)comcast(dot)net wrote:

I've had a PPL for 30 years... but at the moment I'm flying
ultralights because it's just so much simpler-- and not all that
different from buzzing around the local area in the T-Craft I used to
own.


Dana,

If you're up for flying a Sundowner one of these days...

barry at bburke dot com and I'll shoot you a phone number!

You can leave the Gremlin at home and I'll pick you up in Chester.
  #47  
Old March 17th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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But you knew that was my motivation, or are you becoming forgetful?

Ah, yes, Larry, I actually *had* forgotten how you split the moral
hairs of the meaning of "en route". However, I suspect the rest of
the audience knew that my post didn't mean that pilots should get
loaded (on the house) and then go fly into the busiest airspace in the
world.

I refuse to believe that airmen are idiots, despite occasional
evidence to the contrary.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #48  
Old March 17th 07, 01:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 16 Mar 2007 18:44:50 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com:

I actually *had* forgotten


Any idea what's causing you to become forgetful?

  #49  
Old March 17th 07, 02:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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I actually *had* forgotten

Any idea what's causing you to become forgetful?


Not enough beer? :-)

Today, it might be vacation fatigue. 2000+ miles of GA flying (not
that "programmed flying" the big guys do) in just 4 days, with lots of
touristy stuff in the "between days" has me pretty beat.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you... ;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

  #50  
Old March 17th 07, 05:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 16 Mar 2007 19:04:14 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com:

2000+ miles of GA flying (not
that "programmed flying" the big guys do) in just 4 days, with lots of
touristy stuff in the "between days" has me pretty beat.



There aren't many other light singles that will take a family of four
and baggage without exceeding weight and balance. That Cherokee is a
mighty workhorse.

I found that on long legs at high altitude, mild hypoxia insidiously
impacted my abilities just when I needed them most, at the approach
and landing phases of flight. I started carrying a small oxygen
bottle just to sharpen up when it was necessary. Have you got one of
these? http://www.mhoxygen.com/index.phtml?...=23&news_id=13

 




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