Jeppeson

Kev writes:

One question would be: is insurance a factor ? Unlike MSFS, where
moving all the world's bridges to one location was just a humorous
software goof, Jeppesen could probably get sued big time if you ran
into something misplaced on their GPS data.

I dunno. I read something about another company that had bad data and a crash
occurred partly in consequence of that, and yet they seem to have gotten away
with it. Those posts could have been trolls, so I don't know for sure.

In theory the PIC is responsible for flight safety and cannot easily pass off
his problems to other parties. However, that concerns mostly his license, not
all forms of potential liability. So I'm not sure what the insurance
situation would be. Jeppesen is part of Boeing, so it presumably has very
deep pockets.

I don't understand why the only source is Jeppesen. What happened to the U.S.
government, the primary supplier of the source data?

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Maxwell writes:

How so...skitzo?

Microsoft has a de facto position of dominance because of factors largely
beyond its control but favorable to it. The same applies here with
Jeppesen.


You don't even understand your operating system do you?

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Kev writes:

Taking a little more time to think it over, it's true that once the
data is collected into a digital form, then in theory Jepp could just
"press a button" and come up with updates for various GPS avionics.

I doubt that they are furnishing their data at cost, especially given
their de
facto monopoly.


What monopoly, the one you imaged? Not a factor for the rest of us.

Maxwell writes:

You don't even understand your operating system do you?

I used to write operating systems.

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Maxwell writes:

You don't even understand your operating system do you?

I used to write operating systems.

Yeah I know, you fly 747s too.

BDS wrote:

If the profit margins are high enough there will eventually be competition
in some form or another.

Which was my point. If it were 99% profit, someone else would be
trying to do it.

Ron Natalie writes:

Which was my point. If it were 99% profit, someone else would be
trying to do it.

I guess if nobody has a problem with paying as much as it costs now, prices
aren't likely to diminish.

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One question would be: is insurance a factor ? Unlike MSFS, where
moving all the world's bridges to one location was just a humorous
software goof, Jeppesen could probably get sued big time if you ran
into something misplaced on their GPS data.

As I've already pointed out not only is INSURANCE an issue, but
Jepp either has or contracts for a lot of legal services. They
are a convenient target for lawsuits (because the government is
harder to sue).

Mxsmanic wrote:

Deeper pockets make them a deep target.


I don't understand why the only source is Jeppesen. What happened to the U.S.
government, the primary supplier of the source data?

Because the government doesn't produce it in a directly usable form.
If a company wanted to subscribe to it from the feds, convert it to
a reasonable format for use in the GPS, do whatever quality checks
they think necessary (blue screening your PC is an annoyance, crashing
a NAV system is one of those things that leads to death and/or
lawsuits), and distribute it, they are welcome to.

Again, the fact that you have a company that's been doing it for a
long time (remember Jepp got into this market *BEFORE* the government)
and is currently doing a very good job at an acceptable price makes
it harder for a new comer to come in and undercut.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Natalie writes:

Which was my point. If it were 99% profit, someone else would be
trying to do it.

I guess if nobody has a problem with paying as much as it costs now, prices
aren't likely to diminish.

People have a problem with it. Pilots are cheap *******s. The problem
is the margins aren't what you imagine them to be.