Air-dams/strakes on Stealth AC

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Now, back to the subject at hand, Ferrin. Why would you feel that you
have
any business replying to me on an airplane technical matter? It is clear
to
me after so much time that you are not much above willshaw as a
participant
at ram. I see no basis upopn which you are participating in this thread,
outside your being a troll.



I'll bet if we had a vote you'd get voted off the island and I'd still
be here.

From day one, but that makes you no less clueless, Ferrin. My disruption of
the Shafer "kook troll" is grounds for exile from ram.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

Each airframe has it's own dog house.

...and according to Tarver, they *never* leave, evne when flying on a
regular basis...

How would you go about photographing the underside of an F-22 departing
Edwards' flight line, Chad?

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Each airframe has it's own dog house.

Show me a picture of an F-22 parked in it's "doghouse" and I'll show
you five where they're not. And the shed where they test the engines
isn't one of the so called doghouses you mention either.

You can't show us any F-22s, Scott, you have never participated in any
aviation activity anywhere.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

But Chad, the 8-inch strakes were not added to the F-22 until last year.

...and then removed.

As is obvious from photos from *this* year.

what is obvious from this year's photos is that vehicle 18 is attempting yet
a third fix for the F-22's tail problems. (ie tail boom stiffen, add
strakes, add titanium tail spar)

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

You don't even know the history of the F-22's developmnet problems,
Irby.

The thing is that I kept paying attention to them *after* they started
fixing them, instead of just assuming that they never got fixed, as you
did.

The F-22's structural problems are not fixed. All that has happened is that
the program is attempting a third fix for the aircraft's tail problems.
Although F-22 vehicle 18 may demonstrate over several hundred hours of
operation that this latest fix works, there is no evidence yet that the tail
spar change is anything more than strike three.

There were in fact strakes on some F-22s between the time the tail
cracks
were found in the F-22 and vehicle 18's production.

For a short time, and they were removed after they figured out what was
happening. You didn't seem to know that, though. You also don't seem
to know that there are actually public photos of the planes, released on
a regular basis. And that they fly these planes, in daylight, wher
epeople get to see them all of the time.

I can say to you for a certainty that the shotgun approach Lockmart hs taken
to the tail problems with the F-22 indicates that they do not understand the
problem well even now. At best it can be concluded that lockmart *hopes*
this latest attempt will work.

Do you post here as an expert to be clueless, or are you just a liar,
Chad?

Once again, you're really an idiot.

So then, Chad is clueless; although more polite than Lockmart's Garlintgton
spam bot.

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:40:10 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

You don't know much about photgraphing airplanes do you, Irby.

Way more than you, moron.

You don't even know the history of the F-22's developmnet problems, Irby.
There were in fact strakes on some F-22s between the time the tail cracks
were found in the F-22 and vehicle 18's production.


Oh this is rich. Tell me exactly which ones had the strakes and I'll
show you a picture with it non strakes.

All Scot can do is once again demonstrate that he has no business posting at
ram, outside certain "tea bag" type threads.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:56:54 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Each airframe has it's own dog house.

Show me a picture of an F-22 parked in it's "doghouse" and I'll show
you five where they're not. And the shed where they test the engines
isn't one of the so called doghouses you mention either.

You can't show us any F-22s, Scott, you have never participated in any
aviation activity anywhere.



And no pictures of the F-22 have ever been published huh? Or did they
photoshop the strakes out of all the released pictures. You're
getting more desterate by the post and you STILL haven't shown us even
a single picture with the strakes. Put up or shut the HELL up.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:30:02 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Why do you post here, Ferrin? Your trolling is of poor quality, you have
no
knowledge of the subject, and you never served. What about being a
server
administrator qualifys you to post difinitively at ram?



A typically clueless Tarver post. What the hell makes you think I'm a
server admin.?

I still have your email from when I started posting on this board

Yeah, me too. Show me where it says I was or am a server admin.
Right up there with your strakes claim.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

How would you go about photographing the underside of an F-22 departing
Edwards' flight line, Chad?

I'd use a gadget called a "camera."

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:30:02 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Why do you post here, Ferrin? Your trolling is of poor quality, you
have
no
knowledge of the subject, and you never served. What about being a
server
administrator qualifys you to post difinitively at ram?



A typically clueless Tarver post. What the hell makes you think I'm a
server admin.?

I still have your email from when I started posting on this board

Yeah, me too. Show me where it says I was or am a server admin.
Right up there with your strakes claim.

What is it you do that has to do with military aviation, Ferrin?

I mean, it is possible you have more to offer than just being a clueless
prick, but such is not in evidence from your posts, Scott.