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  #41  
Old November 25th 07, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 25, 4:02 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Phil writes:
Amazing. I never would have guessed that you could get a spinal
injury from the decompression itself.


Bubbles in the CNS after sudden decompression can cause serious neurological
symptoms and persistent sequelae, but it's a very rare complication.


Moron strikes again.
No diver suffering DS will be flying on a commercial airliner in that
state!.
Or is our resident clown now a specialist in Hyperbaric medicine ?
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Old November 25th 07, 07:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 26, 1:11 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Darkwing writes:
Is there anything you aren't an expert on??


One need not be an expert to know such things. One need only crack open a
book from time to time. All this information is out there for people who are
interested in looking for it.


The thing about books isn't to 'crack them open' periodically.
It's to actually read them and assimilate the information gained.
And then use it !
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Old November 25th 07, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Big John wrote in
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The B-47 had what was called the "coffen corner". At high altitude the
airspeed was just above the stall and if you increased your airspeed
you were into Mach. This required very close attention by B-47
drivers.



Yeah, it's petty much the same with any transonic aircraft. Technically,
though, what you had at the low end wasn't a stall, though it's commonly
referred to as such. The end result was the same (plummeting to earth) but
the biggest difference was that it happened well above indicated stall
speed and well below crit Alpha.
But even the FAA call it a stall in their advisory material.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...Circular.nsf/0
/e04e9b9732ba93fd86256caa005ca97e/$FILE/AC61-107A.pdf

You probably flew looser margins than we do, in fact. I've flown with about
ten knots either direction to buffet, but it's a non-event with us in
coffin corner because of the more sophisticated autopilots and
autothrottles.

In the U2 they flew with a +/- 2 knot margin! The autopiot did th ework and
they let the altitude do what it wanted in deference to speedkeeping.


Bertie


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Old November 25th 07, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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george wrote in
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On Nov 26, 1:11 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Darkwing writes:
Is there anything you aren't an expert on??


One need not be an expert to know such things. One need only crack
open a book from time to time. All this information is out there for
people who are interested in looking for it.


The thing about books isn't to 'crack them open' periodically.
It's to actually read them and assimilate the information gained.
And then use it !


Well said.


Bertie
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Old November 25th 07, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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george schrieb:
On Nov 25, 4:02 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Phil writes:
Amazing. I never would have guessed that you could get a spinal
injury from the decompression itself.

Bubbles in the CNS after sudden decompression can cause serious neurological
symptoms and persistent sequelae, but it's a very rare complication.


Moron strikes again.
No diver suffering DS will be flying on a commercial airliner in that
state!.
Or is our resident clown now a specialist in Hyperbaric medicine ?


Where did he mention divers and hyperbaric situations? You should at
least read his posting before bashing him. You may not understand it,
but what he wrote is absolutely correct and to the point, whether you
like it or not.
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Old November 25th 07, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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nobody writes:

I guess you are simply incapable of understanding why someone would make a
sacrafice for someone else.


I'm capable of understanding that if Mommy and Daddy don't put on their masks
first, both they and their children will die. So they aren't sacrificing
_for_ someone else, they are sacrificing someone else, period. Not very
bright.
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Old November 25th 07, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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george writes:

The thing about books isn't to 'crack them open' periodically.
It's to actually read them and assimilate the information gained.
And then use it !


You'll never get that far if you don't open them first.
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Old November 25th 07, 09:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 26, 9:14 am, Stefan wrote:
george schrieb:

On Nov 25, 4:02 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Phil writes:
Amazing. I never would have guessed that you could get a spinal
injury from the decompression itself.
Bubbles in the CNS after sudden decompression can cause serious neurological
symptoms and persistent sequelae, but it's a very rare complication.


Moron strikes again.
No diver suffering DS will be flying on a commercial airliner in that
state!.
Or is our resident clown now a specialist in Hyperbaric medicine ?


Where did he mention divers and hyperbaric situations?


He claimed a rare complication.
That is the only situation imo.
I taught that dive and fly same day situations were to be avoided.
Transporting 'bent' patients by air to the nearest Hyperbaric chamber
was -always- carried out at low altitude on oxygen!

You should at
least read his posting before bashing him. You may not understand it,
but what he wrote is absolutely correct and to the point, whether you
like it or not.


For some-one to have 'bubbles' develop in the CNS (or anywhere else)
in an aircraft decompression you would have to had been in a
compressed state before emplaning.

Mixedup is not correct.
he has never been correct on any point he has ever raised


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Old November 25th 07, 09:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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george schrieb:

Where did he mention divers and hyperbaric situations?


He claimed a rare complication.
That is the only situation imo.


You're wrong. It can happen in any decompression situation, if the
decompression is severe enough. Like e.g. in a pressurized airplane at
very high altitude which instantly looses its pressurisation.

For some-one to have 'bubbles' develop in the CNS (or anywhere else)
in an aircraft decompression you would have to had been in a
compressed state before emplaning.


You're wrong again.

Mixedup is not correct.
he has never been correct on any point he has ever raised


And again you're wrong. You may or may not like him, but sometimes even
he is correct. But then, this is probably a tad too grey for your black
and white world.
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Old November 25th 07, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

george writes:

The thing about books isn't to 'crack them open' periodically.
It's to actually read them and assimilate the information gained.
And then use it !


You'll never get that far if you don't open them first.


You're an idiot and a complete waste of space.


Bertie
 




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