RIP Cessna...Skycatcher

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:27:27 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

In a news release, Cessna CEO Jack Pelton said the company needed
top quality at a competitive price and SAC put it all together.

Translation: Price was the only consideration.

"Our solution is to partner with SAC, a company with excellent facilities,
state-of-the-art technologies and a workforce highly experienced in
aircraft manufacturing.

Translation: We have to give the Chinese what few technological trade secrets
we possess as part of the deal, so that they can eventually make their own
airplanes and throw us out of business. That's more than one fiscal quarter
in the future, though, so we don't care.

SkyCatcher customers will get
an advanced design, high-quality workmanship and world-class product
support, all at an affordable price from Cessna, a brand known and trusted
worldwide." The move, coupled with Cessna's acquisition of Columbia Aircraft
has dominated Cessna's profile in recent months as it continues to pile up
record sales for its business jets.

Time to look elsewhere for safe aircraft.

Mx, you're an interesting fellow. But then so is a monkey throwing bananas
out his cage door.
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

In a news release, Cessna CEO Jack Pelton said the company needed
top quality at a competitive price and SAC put it all together.

Translation: Price was the only consideration.

"Our solution is to partner with SAC, a company with excellent
facilities, state-of-the-art technologies and a workforce highly
experienced in aircraft manufacturing.

Translation: We have to give the Chinese what few technological trade
secrets we possess as part of the deal,


What's this "we"?

I thought you were French now.


Bertie

On Nov 28, 4:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

In a news release, Cessna CEO Jack Pelton said the company needed
top quality at a competitive price and SAC put it all together.

Translation: Price was the only consideration.

"Our solution is to partner with SAC, a company with excellent
facilities, state-of-the-art technologies and a workforce highly
experienced in aircraft manufacturing.

Translation: We have to give the Chinese what few technological trade
secrets we possess as part of the deal,

What's this "we"?

I thought you were French now.

Bertie

He meant "oui", it just sounds like "we"... :-)

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Time to look elsewhere for safe aircraft.

Right. Like you would actually get in one if it was made in the U.S. and
someone offered to let you fly it for free.

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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com writes:

Right. Like you would actually get in one if it was made in the U.S. and
someone offered to let you fly it for free.

A Chinese aircraft is likely to be even less safe than an American aircraft.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com writes:

Right. Like you would actually get in one if it was made in the U.S.
and someone offered to let you fly it for free.

A Chinese aircraft is likely to be even less safe than an American
aircraft.


Bull****.


How would you know, fukkkwit?

You know nothing whatsoever about aviation.


Bertie

On 2007-11-28 09:52:52 -0800, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com said:

Building it in China, OH JOY! I would think this would be a negative.

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._196672-1.html

Cessna

has chosen the Chinese-government owned Shenyang Aircraft Corp. to
build the Model 162 Skycatcher.

No doubt it will have lead-based paint and the composites will be made
of toxic waste. It should be a real hit.
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Come on people, usually I give pilots some accepted base line of
intelligence and reasoning, but it seems it's largely gone out the
window on this one. Chinese manufacturers of CONSUMER products have
had more than thier fair share of problems to be sure, but it's a hell
of a stretch to compare consumer products with aircraft manufacture.

Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier name,
reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by going with an
aircraft manufacturer who would produce shoddy unreliable or dangerous
aircraft?!

More so, do you honestly think that either Cessna OR your country's
respective aviation authorities are going to let obviously shoddy
unreliable or dangerous aircraft get anywhere near the hands of Joe
Bloggs the pilot?!

Please, at least show some common sense here.

Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed the pros
and cons, and at the end of the day, the most effective solution
presented itself.

To decry the aircraft on the sole fact that it will be constructed in
China simply smacks of xenophobia. If you have a criticism of the
aircraft, at least make it something worth criticising!

To decry the aircraft on the sole fact that it will be constructed in
China simply smacks of xenophobia. If you have a criticism of the
aircraft, at least make it something worth criticising!

If I were interested in one I'd wait and see how many fall out of the
sky. But I do that for any aircraft, so, I guess I'd give the Chinese
just what I'd give any other maker.

"JS" == James Sleeman writes:

JS Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier
JS name, reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by
JS going with [a] manufacturer who would produce shoddy
JS unreliable or dangerous [product]?!

Oh, probably not, no more than Mattel or other internationally known
companies.

JS More so, do you honestly think that either Cessna OR your
JS country's respective aviation authorities are going to let
JS obviously shoddy unreliable or dangerous aircraft get anywhere
JS near the hands of Joe Bloggs the pilot?!

Good point. Thank Gawd at least in the US we've beefed up import
inspection under the Bush regime and we caught all that dangerous
stuff before it hit the retail shelves!!

JS Please, at least show some common sense here.

Preach it brudda.

JS Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed
JS the pros and cons, and at the end of the day, the most
JS effective solution presented itself.

Cessna sniffed big profits to be made by outsourcing is what happened.

Anyway I'm just about to start building an RV-9A so all moot for me.

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