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Old March 27th 04, 04:51 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Well, we established "puppet governments" in Germany and Japan
-- and *they* seem to be doing okay.


People keep bringing those situations up as models, but they are not
analogous to the situation in Iraq or Afghanistan. In Germany, the
population faced the alternative of absorbtion by the Soviet Union;
pretty easy choice to make.


And Iraq faces re-absorption by the same tyrants who oppressed them for the
past generations.


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Old March 27th 04, 04:51 PM
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Tony Cox wrote:

We both noticed one glaring omission.


That would be Kurt Waldheim, right?


Kurt Waldheim only made it up to be listed on the 'not wanted list' in the
US [due to big efforts of the (jewish owned) press in the US].

His time as president was not thrilling, I bet his best time was while
serving at the UN.

#m

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Old March 27th 04, 04:53 PM
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:00:30 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

we = Europe


so you claim to speak for Europe?


I only speak for myself.

#m
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their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.
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Old March 27th 04, 04:57 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:00:30 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

(I think you might have misunderstood,


yes

I wasn't asking who
would help Austria).


with what? with invasions? hopefully never.
as part of the UN: anytime.
as part of joint forces within the EU: well, personally I doubt that you
can find a clear line between NATO and these forces. And I personally would
not like our (few) soldiers be affiliated within NATO. But if this
separation is doable I still doubt that we can keep our neutrality.

#m
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Old March 27th 04, 05:00 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:36:58 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:

Who is going to invade Austria?


Well, Germany did...but Austria then bent over and spread its cheeks.


I bet you would have done the same during the time, and I bet I would have,
too. The situation back then was really set and everybody awaited a strong
man. I doubt that there was or will be such a situation again.

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Old March 27th 04, 05:03 PM
Tony Cox
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:17:53 GMT, Tony Cox wrote:

We both noticed one glaring omission.


That would be Kurt Waldheim, right?


Kurt Waldheim only made it up to be listed on the 'not wanted list' in the
US [due to big efforts of the (jewish owned) press in the US].

His time as president was not thrilling, I bet his best time was while
serving at the UN.


Surely his best time was serving with the SS execution squads
in Serbia, wasn't it? Or do you think that was all made up by the
Jews?


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Old March 27th 04, 05:13 PM
Bob Noel
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In article , "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

But we can't give up. We must find solutions.


Workable solutions, not politically popular or expedient solutions.


yes. That is an excellent clarification.

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Old March 27th 04, 05:28 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:03:00 GMT, Tony Cox wrote:

That would be Kurt Waldheim, right?


His time as president was not thrilling, I bet his best time was while
serving at the UN.


Surely his best time was serving with the SS execution squads
in Serbia, wasn't it?


Idiot!

Or do you think that was all made up by the
Jews?


I don't have first hand (!) facts. It probably was true (as it was for so
many other people, but this is no excuse.).
I only wonder why there has been no trial.

#m

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A far-reaching proposal from the FBI (...) would require all broadband
Internet providers, including cable modem and DSL companies, to rewire
their networks to support easy wiretapping by police.
http://news.com.com/2100-1028-5172948.html
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Old March 27th 04, 06:08 PM
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In article , Tom Sixkiller wrote:
There were also fewer people to feed. Labour is also a renewable
resource.


You just inverted your argument.


No I didn't.

[labour is a renewable resource...]
Oil, however, isn't.


Isn't what?


A renewable resource - sorry, I thought that was obvious from the
context.

But it also begs the question - isn't six billion enough already?


Well, 200 years ago, Malthus said 800 million was enough already.


In my opinion, Malthus was right. IMHO, the world would be a better
place had the population levelled at 800M.

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Old March 27th 04, 06:20 PM
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:
Are we installing a puppet government in Iraq?


That is not our intent, I am sure, but that will be the result if we
stay long.

"puppet government"?


One that requires an alien government's intimate support and direction
to survive.

but in Germany there was.


Nothing significant or persistent; certainly not as much as there still
is in Afghanistan.

In Iraq, the Iraqi's will have take on the opposition.


Indeed. But Iraqis ARE the opposition, too, with the help of all sorts
of foreign scoundrels that have flocked to Iraq since the war.
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