SAC ILS "ADF Required" Info

JPH wrote:

I'm sure Mr Harmer will review the procedure and determine if the note
is or is not required and take action to remove it or revise it if
necessary based on FAAO 8260.3 and 8260.19 requirements.


If he had done that last May the note would have never appeared on the
plate.

If he had done that last May the note would have never appeared on the
plate.

That remains to be seen. Let's hear what Mr. Harmer has to say.

Jose
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:


And here is my reply:

Dear Mr. Spadaro,

I did not have a question, I wrote only to point out the error on the
chart. Can you tell me what is in your records that makes it appear
that the "ADF REQUIRED" note should be charted on the ILS or LOC RWY 2
SIAP? Can you tell me why this ADF note was added on the chart per
TL06-09 CCP request? Why would you need a revised procedure to remove
the note? Since this approach can be flown without ADF it would appear
the note should never have been added, unless "ADF REQUIRED" means
something other than "ADF is needed to fly this approach". Does it?

Have a nice day.

Steven P. McNicoll

You are bugging the wrong entity. NACO does not make judgements about
chart notes. To them, and many others, it's a regulation.

AVN-100 is the source for this stuff. That is where you should be
sending your missives.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

JPH wrote:

I'm sure Mr Harmer will review the procedure and determine if the note
is or is not required and take action to remove it or revise it if
necessary based on FAAO 8260.3 and 8260.19 requirements.



If he had done that last May the note would have never appeared on the
plate.

Unlike ATC, AVN is not a perfect organization.

Sam Spade wrote:

You are bugging the wrong entity. NACO does not make judgements about
chart notes. To them, and many others, it's a regulation.

AVN-100 is the source for this stuff. That is where you should be
sending your missives.


On the inside cover of NACO charts is written:

FOR CHARTING ERRORS CONTACT:
National Aeronautical Charting Office, FAA
N/ACCI, SSMC-4, Sta. #2335
1305 East-West Highway
Silver Spring, MD 20910-3281
Telephone Toll-Free (800) 626-3677
Internet/E-Mail:


If the FAA wishes to have notice of charting errors sent to AVN-100
they should change the contact information published in the charts.
Until they do that I will continue to send them to NACO.

Sam Spade wrote:

Unlike ATC, AVN is not a perfect organization.


You have a higher opinion of ATC than I do.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:

You are bugging the wrong entity. NACO does not make judgements about
chart notes. To them, and many others, it's a regulation.

AVN-100 is the source for this stuff. That is where you should be
sending your missives.



On the inside cover of NACO charts is written:

FOR CHARTING ERRORS CONTACT:
National Aeronautical Charting Office, FAA
N/ACCI, SSMC-4, Sta. #2335
1305 East-West Highway
Silver Spring, MD 20910-3281
Telephone Toll-Free (800) 626-3677
Internet/E-Mail:


If the FAA wishes to have notice of charting errors sent to AVN-100
they should change the contact information published in the charts.
Until they do that I will continue to send them to NACO.

Oh very well. But, this is not a charting error. If it is an error at
all, it is a source document error. That is not in NACO's purview no
matter how much you may wish it to be.

On the inside cover of NACO charts is written:

FOR CHARTING ERRORS CONTACT:...

Perhaps that note is an error.

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Sam Spade wrote:

Oh very well. But, this is not a charting error.


"ADF REQUIRED" on charts for IAPs that do not require ADF is not a
charting error?



If it is an error at
all, it is a source document error. That is not in NACO's purview no
matter how much you may wish it to be.


It appears the FAA wants notice of charting errors reported to NACO.
Do you understand that?

Jose wrote:

Perhaps that note is an error.


Perhaps. I wonder where notification of that possible error should be
addressed?