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F-16 Encounters in MOA
Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: People drive way too fast, run red lights and stop signs every day. And many of them die in the process. Yet the bodies don't seem to be piling up anywhere. Most of the bodies are the bodies of people who take these foolish risks. It's natural selection at work. Then how to you explain your miserable existence? You're a total moron. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: People drive way too fast, run red lights and stop signs every day. And many of them die in the process. Yet the bodies don't seem to be piling up anywhere. Most of the bodies are the bodies of people who take these foolish risks. It's natural selection at work. Oh the horror, oh the bodies strewn everywhere you look! Blah, blah, blah; more pontificating nonsense from the terrified of life, jobless loser hiding in his hovel looking to justify his retched existance. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: Oh the horror, oh the bodies strewn everywhere you look! One doesn't see them piled up in a single location, but tens of thousands of people die through recklessness every year. Those who refuse to learn from this reality often become a victim of it. Another recklessly moronic post by Anthony, certified internet asshole. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: Oh the horror, oh the bodies strewn everywhere you look! One doesn't see them piled up in a single location, but tens of thousands of people die through recklessness every year. Those who refuse to learn from this reality often become a victim of it. Oh the horror!! Bodies scattered everywhere!!! Yet more meaningless pontification from the poster boy for agraphobia. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: Oh the horror, oh the bodies strewn everywhere you look! One doesn't see them piled up in a single location, but tens of thousands of people die through recklessness every year. And millions waste their lives .. Bertie |
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F-16 Encounters in MOA
Buster Hymen wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in : Marty Shapiro writes: Do all F-16's now have VHF radios? At a Wings safety seminar sevaral years ago I was told that most only have UHF and thus can't directly communicate with GA aircraft. If they cannot communicate with GA aircraft, that's all the more reason not to harass GA aircraft. Your a ****ing moron While I agree that Anthony is a ****ing moron. He is right in this case. |
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Viperdoc wrote:
They did not fly formation with the civilian pilot- it is not the normal intercept procedure, and the differences in airspeed make it difficult. The usual intent is to get the other pilot's attention, while the wingman provides support and maintains visual contact. The civilian pilot has an equal responsibility to see and avoid, and probably should be even more attentive in an active MOA. I'm hardly a military basher but in this case the civilian pilot did try to see an avoid and that is what caused the problem. He was listening to his TCAS and doing what it said. The F16 pilot should have realized this when the civilian started maneuvering and broken off the intercept. It seems the USAF agrees with this and hence are spanking the F16 pilot and changing training methods. |
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Viperdoc wrote:
The pilot may well have made a bad decision- however, it is highly unlikely that they were flying in formation with the civilian plane. As far as I know, both pilots have an equal responsibility for see and avoid. At first I thought this was all a case of a civilian pilot overreacting. After listening to the audio and watching the radar video I've come to the decsicion and has the USAF that the F-16 pilot screwed up. To say a civilian pilot that is intercepted from the rear by a radar carrying F-16 has the same see and avoid responsibility is absurd. Though in this case the civilian did try to avoid (via TCAS) and F-16 wouldn't let it. |
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F-16 Encounters in MOA
John Smith wrote:
Let's all remember that the first guy that got bounced kept his mouth shut until the second one, a lawyer, complained and said that he wanted to file a complaint. Only then did the first pilot meekly chimed in that he would also like to file a complaint. If it wasn't for the people in the military, we wouldn't even have the privilage or right to even be in the sky. As long as there isn't a mid-air, fly the airplane and shut up. Bull ****. Then I suppose you won't mind if the Army sends a squad out to do target practice with M-16s in your back yard as long as they don't hit your house. |
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