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  #51  
Old November 20th 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in
news:RfOdnVwDSesXqf_YnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@cablespeedwa .com:

I know some people will
include position when they check-in with a controller they have been
handed off to, but isn't necessary.


Interesting as I have never heard anybody give their position when handed
off? What do they say for their position.

Only thing I report on hand offs is my altitude and read back the altimeter
if center acknowleges me with a altimeter setting.

I.E.
Memphis Center Sundowner one niner four three lima 7000

I have never heard anything any different other then an initial callup
where they give location, altitude and request VFR flight following or an
IFR picking up their clearance.

Allen
  #52  
Old November 20th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

You didn't a week or so ago.


I've always known how it works. I did ask how pilots normally used it
to see how often they feel inclined to trim in real life.

I've known most of the basic principles of flight for many years.
It's the implementation and procedural details that I ask about.

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  #53  
Old November 20th 06, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Andrew Gideon writes:

Shrug There are a lot of people that seem to be involved in aviation
simulation. There's even this "network" of them where some play pilot
while others play controller. They actually do talk to one another.

Most of them are harmless. Some are going to become pilots; others will
remain forever pretenders.


And many of them are already pilots. Simulation is dramatically
cheaper and simpler than actual flight, and most pilots can afford to
fly only a few hours per month (or year), unless they do it for a
living.

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Old November 20th 06, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Thomas Borchert writes:

Well, you're sitting in a room. That should do it, no reporting
necessary.


I'm simulating real life, therefore reporting is a good idea.

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  #55  
Old November 21st 06, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Wade Hasbrouck
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"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
"Wade Hasbrouck" wrote in
news:RfOdnVwDSesXqf_YnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@cablespeedwa .com:

I know some people will
include position when they check-in with a controller they have been
handed off to, but isn't necessary.


Interesting as I have never heard anybody give their position when handed
off? What do they say for their position.

Only thing I report on hand offs is my altitude and read back the
altimeter
if center acknowleges me with a altimeter setting.

I.E.
Memphis Center Sundowner one niner four three lima 7000

I have never heard anything any different other then an initial callup
where they give location, altitude and request VFR flight following or an
IFR picking up their clearance.


I don't include position in a handoff, but there was discussion on the
pilots alias at work about a month ago and some did say they included their
position...

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Old November 21st 06, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Blanche writes:

1) No one.
2) None.
3) Not ever.

Unless you are on flight following or in airspace that requires
radio contact, there is no obligation to talk to anyone.


I wasn't asking about obligations, I was asking about safe practices
and the procedures in place that allow them.

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Old November 21st 06, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Computers can spontaneously start electical fires- perhaps in the interests
of safety you should stop posting.


  #58  
Old November 21st 06, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Flight Watch is intended for weather and PIREPS, although in
an emergency, they will talk to you about the impending
crash or the other condition. But they are setup as weather
specialists.

For the real student pilots out there, position reports are
often a life saver. In areas of mountains, swamps, oceans
and deserts, even your slow trainer can get you many miles
away from your last known position in just a few minutes. A
flight plan files with a 90 minute ETE will often require a
search over several hundred square miles unless you have
either made accurate position reports, or received radar
service/flight following from ATC. Although VFR position
reports are usually given directly to FSS Radio on one of
the frequencies publish on the sectional chart or in the
AFD, you can give a VFR position report to ATC even if you
are not in radar contact, just call Center [call sign] VFR
position report. They will be able to record the report and
are happy to do so, particularly in remote areas.

Learn the format for a position report and don't waste their
time stammering. When you start IFR training, you'll be
ahead of the class.


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ATP,CFI,A&P

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
...
| They all work in the same building and get paid from the
same pool of money,
| but the last time I visited the Seattle AFSS there was one
person at the
| Flight Watch position whose sole responsibility it was to
answer queries
| about the weather on 122.0...s/he worked no other
frequency. And his scope
| did not have a flight plan screen, as did the other scopes
in the room.
|
| Bob Gardner
|
| "Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
| news | On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:33:20 -0800, Bob Gardner wrote:
|
| Uh... Andrew, you do realize that Flight Watch is a
purely weather
| position with no other responsibilities, right? Call
FSS, yes, call
| Flight
| Watch, no.
|
| I've often wondered: why the distinction? Isn't Flight
Watch the same set
| of people?
|
| - Andrew (a different Andrew)
|
|
|


  #59  
Old November 21st 06, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Viperdoc writes:

Computers can spontaneously start electical fires- perhaps in the interests
of safety you should stop posting.


In the interest of safety I do take precautions against overheating of
components. Whether or not I post has no effect on the fire risk,
though.

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Old November 21st 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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if you are making position reports
do you not then have flight following?
BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you
are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom
do you report your position, and what information should it include?
Which positions do you report and how often?

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