Blue Angels plane crashes

Larry in AZ wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, Mxsmanic said:

Dave Witmarsh writes:

No, it wouldn't have...the americans would have fled in the same
cowardly fashion media or no media.

The only cowardice was in refusing to admit that Vietnam was a mistake
for so long in the first place. A lot of Americans died as a result.

The usa will never become a major world player until it learns its
place.

I'm not sure which USA you have in mind, but the USA I know is already
the number one player on the planet.

"Dave Witmarsh," real name, Ricky Mathers, is a disgraced former American,
who now hides out in Asstrailer, after losing his pecker.

His entire life now consists of posting lames to a single Usenet group under
a revolving series of nyms.


Larry is a disgraced Froggie who now hides in the only country that will
still have him since he was thrown out of Equador on the charge of
"lowering the tone of the nation".

"Mxsmanic" wrote ...
Mike Hunt writes:

We don't see pictures of the military deaths in Iraq on the news every
times someone is killed.

Perhaps that is why there have been so many military deaths in Iraq. The
Vietnam War would have continued indefinitely without the media.

With 50,000 plus in Viet Nam yet less than 4,000 in Iraq, I guess that means
ten more years.....


Deaths? I'll give you deaths. In the late Summer and Fall of 1914, the
French Army lost 700,000 men in a short few months. That's more than have
been killed in all of the US's services in 20th century wars....

How was the French media along about first snowfall?

Still " Audace, audace, toujours audace!"

As for US battles, on one afternoon, although counting both sides in an
internecine conflict, the bloodiest day in US history, Sharpsburg/Anteitam
Creek, 27,000, the majority within a few hundred yards of a sunken lane. D
Day was a piker, less than 3,000 in 24 hours, not many more than Pearl
Harbor.

TMO

TMOliver writes:

With 50,000 plus in Viet Nam yet less than 4,000 in Iraq, I guess that means
ten more years.....

That is certainly a possibility.

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Mike Hunt writes:

Other people do get hurt, and in this case, other people got hurt.

The exception does not moot the rule.

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Greg Procter wrote:

Mike Hunt wrote:

JohnT wrote:

I suppose that it depends on your definition of "number one player". To me,
it seems to be a Country which has spectacularly lost its way in the last
few years and which is now living on past glories. And its deficit has now
reached gynormous proportions.


You realize of course that our GDP is also "gynormous" compared to that
of other countries. Here is a link to a comparison based on percentage
of GDP.



You couldn't find one???

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications.../2186rank.html

In message .com Denny
wrote:

Well, I am going to continue with my usual rant: There is no
compelling reason for low level aerobatics! It should be banned...
Every airshow season some schmuck manages to turn his bird into
smoking wreckage while trying to prove he is the "best" at diving
within inches of death...

So? What exactly is the problem here?

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Mike Hunt wrote:
B A R R Y wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:29:01 -0700, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost
wrote:


It's one death. Not any more important than the deaths of others
dying in the military.


And no less, either.

We don't see pictures of the military deaths in Iraq on the news every
times someone is killed.

I've seen everyone from my area in the local papers and also the time
and date of the memorial services. Maybe you should pay attention once
in a while. You just might learn something ... then again, probably not.

Matt

Denny wrote:
Well, I am going to continue with my usual rant: There is no
compelling reason for low level aerobatics! It should be banned...
Every airshow season some schmuck manages to turn his bird into
smoking wreckage while trying to prove he is the "best" at diving
within inches of death...

In this case it appears that the flight leader took the maneuver below
the treetops and this unfortunate schmuck, who had his eyes glued to
the wing ahead of him, kissed a pine tree...
If I were the prosecutor in that county I would charge the flight
leader with involuntary manslaughter and take him to trial...

denny


We don't care about your rant, so why don't you go somewhere where
someone might care?

Matt Whiting wrote:
I've seen everyone from my area in the local papers and also the time
and date of the memorial services. Maybe you should pay attention once
in a while. You just might learn something ... then again, probably not.

I am not talking about just the people in your area.
I am talking about all of the deaths.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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TheSmokingGnu writes:

And the fact that the two are separated by 60 years of history, two
major wars, countless smaller police actions, and an enormous
paradigm shift both in how the media covers a story and the role
society expects and accepts media coverage has *_ABSOLUTELY_* no
bearing on that, right?

Right.

Or that the two had completely opposite purposes, right?

Right.

You're treading dangerously close to Godwin's Law.

I'm recognizing death for what it is, and the value of life for what
it is.

Lots of people die. My relationship to them does not determine the
importance or unimportance of their deaths. At least I recognize
that, and I do not try to rationalize any preferences I may personally
have in order to deny their injustice.

They only asked that you not be an insensitive lout. That was,
obviously enough, too much.

Are they the same ones who clamor for the killing of people they
consider their enemies?

"One death is a tragedy; a million, a statistic". Heaven forbid that
a group of pilots should care when a highly-skilled member of their
ilk perishes doing his job more than the deaths of unrelated college
students.

They are welcome to care. It's only when they try to pretend that
they are not showing favoritism that there is a problem. Certain
deaths may be more important to them--but that doesn't make those
deaths more important objectively, and if there is insensitivity in
anything, it is in denying this reality.



you're an idiot.


Bertie