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zatatime wrote: If this does not cover the issue, I'll try to find time to call the State DOT for clarification of what statute applies. I only know from practical knowledge that it is not allowed. I'm probably reading it wrong. George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 01:52:31 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote: zatatime wrote: If this does not cover the issue, I'll try to find time to call the State DOT for clarification of what statute applies. I only know from practical knowledge that it is not allowed. I'm probably reading it wrong. George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. Not too sure about that. I did miss the "government" comment preceeding my snip. No promises, but I'll try to follow up to get the reg #. z |
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Several years ago, when I lived in the north end of San Bernardino, California, my father-in-law used to land on a concrete slab left over from a WWII Army supply depot. It was about a mile and a half from the house, just of the east side of Interstate-15 We had scoped the place out, cleared some brush, and sunk some anchors for tie downs. He lived and flew in Alaska and the plane was a C-170B with big flaps and huge mains. Pop would fly over the house and rack the throttle a couple times to get my attention, then head for the patch. By the time I got there he'd be tieing the plane down. One late evening, right at twilight, we went through the drill. I helped him finish up the tie-downs and just as we started to unload... Headlights, spotlights, and cops -- sheriff, Highway patrol, city cops, and we found out in a few minutes the FBI and DEA -- appeared from every direction! Fortunately, none of them unholstered their pistols but a few had shotguns pointed in the air. One guy, turned out to be DEA, asked Pop if they could look in the airplane. I almost wet myself when the old man answered, "Not unless you tell me what you think you're looking for." After about ten minutes of hassling back and forth... Pop was a hard-core conservative, if you haven't figured that out yet... he opened the door and let them inspect his cargo. He was even polite enough to warn them that his 30.06 and 44Mag were hot loaded, as was his Armalite folded rifle that was wrapped up in his parka. He was actually bluffing about that. He never carried the guns loaded in the airplane. Somebody in the neighborhood alerted the cops. Surely we had to be smuggling something. Especially when the busybody watched us carry all the gear out of the airplane and stuff it into the Wagoneer. Especially when they saw the .06 in the open. Then, came my turn. The DEA guy walked over to me and asked if he could look into the Jeep. I could see the old man grinning at me over the agent's shoulder. With a mouth full of cotton and pucker-factor creeping over the nine mark, I managed to croak, "Not unless you tell me what you think you're looking for." Every cop within hearing distance burst out laughing, including the DEA agent. He shook his head and walked away. The old concrete slab is long gone. A housing development went in there. I moved away. The old man and N2310D disappeared into the mountains somewhere between Anchorage and North Way. Every time I drive into San Berdoo I remember that night. |
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 04:28:43 GMT, "Casey Wilson"
wrote: Every time I drive into San Berdoo I remember that night. Sorry for your loss, but thanks for sharing your good memories. z |
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"Ernest Christley" wrote in message
. com... Don't the federal regulation forbid dropping under 500ft AGL over someone else's property? Not even close. I think the law is that anything below 500 is the airspace of the private property owner Property owners have no right of ownership of any sort with respect to the airspace above their property. |
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Don't the federal regulation forbid dropping under 500ft AGL over someone
else's property? Not even close. The regs generally forbid flying an airplane less than 500 feet from any structure or vessel, except for takeoff and landing. Jose -- Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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"Jose" wrote in message
m... The regs generally forbid flying an airplane less than 500 feet from any structure or vessel, except for takeoff and landing. So what? Those regulations don't apply in congested areas (such as those described by Ernest), and they don't apply during takeoffs and landings in any case (the specific situation this entire thread is about). |
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Where is this? My kids would probably get a big kick out of something like
that... Newps wrote in news:3N2dnbVgu59cGircRVn- : We have a guy here that has a 1500 pound thing he hangs from his Jetranger each Christmas. It is Santa in his sleigh and a couple of reindeer. There's about a thousand lights being run from the generator bungied to the skids. He flies without any lights on the copter and the route is published in the paper on Dec 23 each year. His whole flight takes him a couple hours. |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote:
I think the law is that anything below 500 is the airspace of the private property owner Property owners have no right of ownership of any sort with respect to the airspace above their property. Yes they do. A property owner has rights to airspace for any reasonable use thereof under common law, where FAA's 500' reference may be irrelevant. One example is erection of an antenna tower on your property. FAA rules under Part 77 on obstructions apply only to a potential obstruction to public-use airports and to otherwise navigational airspace -- at least 500' for the latter, but not to private strips at all. So if such a tower under 500' AGL poses a hazard to aircraft for an adjoining private airfield, the rights of the antenna owner's property may just be superior under common law. Of course, to be decided in a court of common pleas, or by Judge Judy, or at minimum a rather good "arguendo" exercise under individual State law as to "neighbor law" in a law school class! Fred F. |
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