Help needed re Mifflin wind turbines

Ooo... it has the links for me! Yay!

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:37:49 -0700, Two Shoes (Judson Knowles) wrote:

Why is everyone so lazy that they need to be spoon fed this? Is your
Google-Fu that weak?

Speaking entirely for myself, my search skills are fine: took me about
two searches to find the stuff on birds killed by oil spills.

I considered looking for the US turbine stuff myself but decided not to:
since those quoting very large bird kill numbers sounded so sure they
knew the facts I thought it would be better to ask them what they based
their assertions on, which is what I did. Besides, UK figures are more
interesting to me.

T'was interesting to see just how little peer-reviewed literature there
is on the subject *and* that the best the Smithsonian could do was to
quote somebody else: I thought they were the sort of outfit that would do
their own research.

It was also interesting to compare annual kill rate estimates for the
entire US installed turbine collection with the estimates for the overall
Exxon Valdez spill's figure, so thanks for the links you've provided.
I'll be interested to see what data some others have.

Doing a similar search for the UK is on my todo list.

I'm not posting for one side or the other, just to show if one wants
data, it is out there. I guess whomever reads any of this will need to
determine if they are "reliable" sources or not.

Indeed, but at least we know who made the estimates and what methods they
used.


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Great post Judson.

Your efforts to keep wind turbines off the ridges will have a greater
chance of success if you stick to what the wind turbines are doing, and
forget about attacking "liberals". You are making more enemies than
friends for your cause with your obsession over "liberals".

Liberals like animals and birds. Enlist their aid instead of attacking a
group that is far from homogenous in it's goals and passions.

Sean Fidler wrote, On 3/23/2014 11:36 AM:
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:15:08 PM UTC-4, Whiskey Charlie
wrote:
You never know...

http://tinyurl.com/prctuan

That is hilarious WC. And so timely...

Notice how the liberal hordes have absolutely no heart. This is the
sad truth about liberals. They only act as if they have feelings for
animals when it serves their political goals. The reality is that
thousands of magnificent (and often endangered) birds are being
killed each and every hour by "green" energy wind turbines. You
could not design a better method of killing soaring birds (other than
placing them on top of a ridge...) that green energy wind turbines.

The reality is that liberals do not care about birds being killed and
suffering in horrible agony until they die when struck by their
"green energy" producing turbine blades. They care about forcing non
liberals to conform to their utopian fantasy of how the world should
be. At any cost. Remember the tale of the "spotted owl?"

Above we see a classic liberal happy to devalue all bird life and
their right to live free of a green energy caused massacre (by wind
turbines). Instead of taking any responsibility, the liberal drone
instead tries to argue that house-cats are a more important threats
to consider for these birds. So therefore the wind turbine bird
massacre is "not his green energy causes fault" because house cats
also kill birds? Amazing...

Clearly the bald eagle in the photo is not very concerned about that
house cat. More like happy to have such an easy meal.

I wonder how long that bird in the video suffered in that parking lot
before it finally died. A day? Two days? A week? Maybe a house
cat came along and helped put it out of its misery faster than it
would have died on its own?

Its truly a challenge to follow a liberals logic.

;-)



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