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Nomen Nescio ] wrote in
: Shame people cant have more respect for people that have voulnteered to fight for our freedoms. I dont speak to the particulars of this troopers actions but to yours and your blatent disrespect for him. just because he dosent give a sh*t about how many log entries you have in your book doesnt mean he dosent have a job to do. Maybe we should have him go back to doing the same job he had on sept 10th 2001, sittin at the desk ...I perfer he KEEP doing what he did. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, I guess I made the list of suspected terrorists, this weekend. My wife and I had been hiking in the hills at the foot of the Berkshires and and when we got back to the car we decided to stop at Barnes Airport (KBAF) and hang out watching the planes, for a while, and cool off after the hike. So we parked on the side of the road next to rnwy 20, sat on the tailgate and sipped on a soda as the planes came and went, as we have done intermittently for over 3 decades. After 1/2 hour, a camo Hummer pulled out of the Air National Guard base (on the other side of the airport) and came toward us. It pulled up to the fence next to us. G.I. Joe sat there for a minute doing whatever (chambering a round in his 9mm?), then got out and informed us that "You can't stay there!". "We're just having a soda and watching the planes", I said. He repeated "You can't stay there!". "I've been coming to this spot for over 30 years, damn, 9/11's got you guys pretty edgy, huh. I'm a pilot and I've flown in here more times than I can count". "You have to leave, NOW, sir!", he replied sternly. "Is there any place, around here, where it's OK to sit and watch the planes?", my wife asked. "Not here.......there's a place to watch the planes at Bradley" (KBDL....20 miles away, I know the place off rnwy 6......perfect spot to lob a Stinger Missile up the ass of a 747 on takeoff), "but you can't stay here". Realizing the futility of further discussion, I said, "OK, we're outta here". I closed up the tailgate of the Tahoe and he went back to his Hummer. My wife and I climbed in, and we started driving off. A 1/2 mile down the road my wife says, "You know, he was taking pictures of you as you were closing the tailgate". "Oh, ****" So, now, Folks, .....somewhere in Washington, in some little file, there are probably twenty seven 8x10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against me. The next airline trip should be fun......can you say "Cavity Search"! Hoping you all stay out of the database. Later, Osama Bin Buttf**ked |
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Doug ) wrote:
Shame people cant have more respect for people that have voulnteered to fight for our freedoms. snip It seems to me that someone, somewhere in the chain of command was fighting against our freedoms in this particular case. -- Peter |
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"Doug" wrote in message
... Shame people cant have more respect for people that have voulnteered to fight for our freedoms. Respect does not mean blindly obeying. With that respect comes an expecation that our trust in those people won't be abused. As soon as it is abused, the respect is no longer deserved. I dont speak to the particulars of this troopers actions but to yours and your blatent disrespect for him. just because he dosent give a sh*t about how many log entries you have in your book doesnt mean he dosent have a job to do. He does have a job to do. That job doesn't involve running off people who are behaving in a perfectly legal manner. Maybe we should have him go back to doing the same job he had on sept 10th 2001, sittin at the desk ...I perfer he KEEP doing what he did. Why? How is what he's doing helping anyone? Maybe you'd prefer that we simply send a law enforcement team to every residence in the US, searching for evidence of terrorist activities? That would be the most reliable way of making us safe, after all, right? Pete |
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Shame people cant have more respect for people that have voulnteered
to fight for our freedoms. Respect begets respect. Do you think we should tolerate any level of harrassment arbitrarily forced upon us the name of freedom? Talk about irony! |
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Well, I guess I made the list of suspected terrorists, this weekend.
Get on line, and find your elected representatives. Send 'em emails, outlining this outrageous behavior. Pick up the phone, and call those stuff shirts. Explain what happened, and how outraged you are at this particular National Guardsman's actions. Write letters to the editor. Blast the guy -- and the elected officials, if they don't respond -- all over the local newspapers. Got local talk radio? Call in and bitch! Call the guardsman's commanding officer. They are quite accessible, and usually quite reasonable. (At least they are around here.) Don't just sit there and complain to us -- do something that works! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Call the guardsman's commanding officer. They are quite accessible,
and usually quite reasonable. (At least they are around here.) That would be my first course of action. |
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Next time you go there for a picnic, you might want to take a local
newspaper reporter and a lawyer with you. |
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Was the restaurant open? You could have gone in there. Also, there's a deck
outside the FBO that you probably could have watched from. Just let somebody in the office know what you're doing. And don't bring any long tubular objects with you. ;-) mike regish p.S. I fly out of Northampton. "Nomen Nescio" ] wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, I guess I made the list of suspected terrorists, this weekend. My wife and I had been hiking in the hills at the foot of the Berkshires and and when we got back to the car we decided to stop at Barnes Airport (KBAF) and hang out watching the planes, for a while, and cool off after the hike. So we parked on the side of the road next to rnwy 20, sat on the tailgate and sipped on a soda as the planes came and went, as we have done intermittently for over 3 decades. After 1/2 hour, a camo Hummer pulled out of the Air National Guard base (on the other side of the airport) and came toward us. It pulled up to the fence next to us. G.I. Joe sat there for a minute doing whatever (chambering a round in his 9mm?), then got out and informed us that "You can't stay there!". "We're just having a soda and watching the planes", I said. He repeated "You can't stay there!". "I've been coming to this spot for over 30 years, damn, 9/11's got you guys pretty edgy, huh. I'm a pilot and I've flown in here more times than I can count". "You have to leave, NOW, sir!", he replied sternly. "Is there any place, around here, where it's OK to sit and watch the planes?", my wife asked. "Not here.......there's a place to watch the planes at Bradley" (KBDL....20 miles away, I know the place off rnwy 6......perfect spot to lob a Stinger Missile up the ass of a 747 on takeoff), "but you can't stay here". Realizing the futility of further discussion, I said, "OK, we're outta here". I closed up the tailgate of the Tahoe and he went back to his Hummer. My wife and I climbed in, and we started driving off. A 1/2 mile down the road my wife says, "You know, he was taking pictures of you as you were closing the tailgate". "Oh, ****" So, now, Folks, .....somewhere in Washington, in some little file, there are probably twenty seven 8x10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against me. The next airline trip should be fun......can you say "Cavity Search"! Hoping you all stay out of the database. Later, Osama Bin Buttf**ked -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQViq3ZMoscYxZNI5AQFvSAP+PzQLeqqToOyr3EESDF Q7RV3ct0c44PtQ 4jeBn1ToYEPj9ItyOJ/+f2HmEuMeU53GqY/s0pBDUfBWiCZ2/jfDJxCokk7DqXex G5sgMnFnBRfjou934D8P9FXXACOggvr6zf9TFBCX8t1Zxv3rEK w5exlex1IKYu5u ufZqoXqoids= =L2BM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
... In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said: You already know how I feel about issues such as posting the ten commandments, nativity scenes, Stars of David and crosses and the like, as well as private schools. You think these things are public imposition of religion and are prohibited by the Constitution. I think that prohibiting these things violates freedom of worship guaranteed by the Constitution. Please do not insult my intelligence by pretending that you do not know the issues involved. We may never agree, but don't try to tell me you don't know what we are talking about. I know the ACLU has worked hard and long to keep people like you from using government organizations, funds, and buildings to impose your religious beliefs on me and my children. That is not working to "prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion". It is working to *strengthen* my exercise of freedom of religion. As for ACLU's association with communism, don't be ridiculous. It was founded by anarchists and communists and continues to be run by them today. Some of the very earliest members included Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, who later became chairman of the American Communist Party, and Agnes Smedly, a Soviet agent. In every single case that I know of where the United States had a legal issue with the Kremlin or Castro, the ACLU supported the communists, even to the point of forcible repatriation of persons who came here looking for political asylum. So it was founded by people associated with communism. How has it worked to "promote communism". Name one concrete thing. As for "forcible repatriation", the only case I can think you're thinking of is Elian Gonzalez, who was kidnapped by a non-parent away from a parent. That should have been a simple child custody case, and if it wasn't for the national border nobody would have wasted a second's thought on coming to the conclusion that the boy should have been returned to the parent. Saying that the ACLU is neutral on gun control is bogus. If ACLU were interested in protecting Constitutional rights then they would be in the forefront of defending gun owners, especially in states like Washington, where Constitutional protections are much stronger than in the US. That particular constitutional ammendment has a MUCH larger organization protecting it. Why would the ACLU waste its limited time and resources protecting the second ammendment when the largest political organization in the country, the NRA, is already working on the case? ACLU also continually sides against parents on such issues as birth control, sex education, and abortion. Apparently ACLU is able to see a clear Again, name one case. ACLU's attack on the Boy Scouts is legendary. Apparently ACLU does not believe in freedom of association, either, if it involves groups that it does not like. ACLU attempted to prevent the Boy Scouts from discriminating against people. Hardly an attack. Except the Boy Scouts is a private organization. Just like there can be no private censorship under the 1st Amendment (...CONGRESS shall pas no law...) the Communists abhor freedom of association (individual rights) over collectivization. While I agree CJ is totally off base as regards this version of freedom of worship, he is correct on his take on the ACLU, who take a very erratic view of the Bill of Rights. BTW, the GRU was the group that was fundamental in founding the ACLU, not to protect freedom of speech (notice they never take the case of conservatives/free market types at colleges that have speech codes) but to maintain their propaganda outlets. By the way, note too that the Communist Party USA endorses Kerry http://www.cpusa.org |
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ACLU, not to protect freedom of speech (notice they never take
the case of conservatives/free market types at colleges that have speech codes) but to maintain their propaganda outlets. The ACLU frequently takes the side of conservative and other groups. Free speech is free speech, as long as it's respectful of others' constitutional rights. As for the Boy Scouts, if they had the work ethic of the Girl Scouts, they wouldn't be in this fix. They take money from civic charities so they must abide by nondiscrimination rules. If they earned their own funds like the girls they wouldn't have to. By the way, note too that the Communist Party USA endorses Kerry http://www.cpusa.org No, the party makes clear that it does not endorse candidates. And Fox news has no respect for you, and less for journalistic ethics than CBS does. http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=1&id=5607 |
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