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Old November 24th 07, 06:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Phil
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On top of last week's A340 incident, now an A330 experienced a sudden
depressurization on a shakedown flight. Among the injuries to
passengers were spinal injuries. Sounds like the pilot may have
abruptly dived the aircraft while some passengers were still standing
in the aisle. Or would people pass out so quickly that they fell and
injured themselves? It doesn't say what the altitude is, but I would
have thought that people would stay conscious long enough to get to a
seat and use the oxygen mask.


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Old November 24th 07, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Phil writes:

On top of last week's A340 incident, now an A330 experienced a sudden
depressurization on a shakedown flight. Among the injuries to
passengers were spinal injuries. Sounds like the pilot may have
abruptly dived the aircraft while some passengers were still standing
in the aisle. Or would people pass out so quickly that they fell and
injured themselves?


It depends on the altitude, but at typical cruising altitudes they might be
conscious for only fifteen to twenty seconds, which might not be long enough
for them to gather their wits and get to an oxygen mask if they are standing
and moving about.

It doesn't say what the altitude is, but I would
have thought that people would stay conscious long enough to get to a
seat and use the oxygen mask.


At high altitudes there may not be enough time. That's what FAs always tell
parents to fasten their own masks before putting masks on their children: if
they try to fasten their children's masks first, they may pass out before they
succeed, and then both end up with hypoxia and unconsciousness. I think a lot
of parents are too stupid to understand this, however.
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Old November 24th 07, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Phil writes:

On top of last week's A340 incident, now an A330 experienced a sudden
depressurization on a shakedown flight. Among the injuries to
passengers were spinal injuries. Sounds like the pilot may have
abruptly dived the aircraft while some passengers were still standing
in the aisle. Or would people pass out so quickly that they fell and
injured themselves?


It depends on the altitude, but at typical cruising altitudes they might
be
conscious for only fifteen to twenty seconds, which might not be long
enough
for them to gather their wits and get to an oxygen mask if they are
standing
and moving about.

It doesn't say what the altitude is, but I would
have thought that people would stay conscious long enough to get to a
seat and use the oxygen mask.


At high altitudes there may not be enough time. That's what FAs always
tell
parents to fasten their own masks before putting masks on their children:
if
they try to fasten their children's masks first, they may pass out before
they
succeed, and then both end up with hypoxia and unconsciousness. I think a
lot
of parents are too stupid to understand this, however.


Pot. Kettle. Black. Must resist...can't stop...ahhhh....


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Old November 24th 07, 08:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Phil writes:

On top of last week's A340 incident, now an A330 experienced a sudden
depressurization on a shakedown flight. Among the injuries to
passengers were spinal injuries. Sounds like the pilot may have
abruptly dived the aircraft while some passengers were still standing
in the aisle. Or would people pass out so quickly that they fell and
injured themselves?


It depends on the altitude, but at typical cruising altitudes they
might be conscious for only fifteen to twenty seconds, which might not
be long enough for them to gather their wits and get to an oxygen mask
if they are standing and moving about.

It doesn't say what the altitude is, but I would
have thought that people would stay conscious long enough to get to a
seat and use the oxygen mask.


At high altitudes there may not be enough time. That's what FAs
always tell parents to fasten their own masks before putting masks on
their children: if they try to fasten their children's masks first,
they may pass out before they succeed, and then both end up with
hypoxia and unconsciousness. I think a lot of parents are too stupid
to understand this, however.


You're certainly too stuopid to understand it.


Bertie

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Old November 24th 07, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 24, 1:15 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


At high altitudes there may not be enough time. That's what FAs always tell
parents to fasten their own masks before putting masks on their children: if
they try to fasten their children's masks first, they may pass out before they
succeed, and then both end up with hypoxia and unconsciousness. I think a lot
of parents are too stupid to understand this, however.


Maybe, but I think it's just an instinctive reaction to help your kid
first.

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Old November 25th 07, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in message
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On Nov 24, 1:15 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I think a lot
of parents are too stupid to understand this, however.


Maybe, but I think it's just an instinctive reaction to help your kid
first.


It's really a pretty simple concept, but I've never had it explained on an
airline. I don't understand how someone could draw a conclusion that parents
are too 'stupid' to understand. Maybe if it's beyond someone's ability to
understand, they would project that 'stupidity' on anyone else who doesn't
understand, whether or not it's ever been explained.


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Old November 25th 07, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 24, 6:02 pm, "nobody" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Nov 24, 1:15 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I think a lot
of parents are too stupid to understand this, however.


Maybe, but I think it's just an instinctive reaction to help your kid
first.


It's really a pretty simple concept, but I've never had it explained on an
airline. I don't understand how someone could draw a conclusion that parents
are too 'stupid' to understand. Maybe if it's beyond someone's ability to
understand, they would project that 'stupidity' on anyone else who doesn't
understand, whether or not it's ever been explained.


Actually the flight attendant says it in every pre-flight emergency
briefing. You are right that it is a simple concept, and I don't know
anyone who is too stupid to understand it. Based on his posts, I
think Mxsmanic has a desperate need to try to make himself feel
superior. He just doesn't realize just how transparent it is. As you
implied, his comments say a lot more about him than anything else.
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Old November 25th 07, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Phil wrote in
:

Actually the flight attendant says it in every pre-flight emergency
briefing. You are right that it is a simple concept, and I don't know
anyone who is too stupid to understand it. Based on his posts, I


It is explained on every pre-flight briefing, but I don't think it's because
they think people are too stupid to understand it. Just that there may be
people on board who don't fly frequently enough to remember it if there were
to be an actual emergency.

Now SEATBELTS they explain because they think people are stupid...
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Old November 25th 07, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Phil writes:

Actually the flight attendant says it in every pre-flight emergency
briefing. You are right that it is a simple concept, and I don't know
anyone who is too stupid to understand it.


Then why do flight attendants point it out on every flight?
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Old November 25th 07, 03:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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nobody writes:

It's really a pretty simple concept, but I've never had it explained on an
airline. I don't understand how someone could draw a conclusion that parents
are too 'stupid' to understand.


If they aren't stupid, they'll figure out for themselves why they should put
on their own masks first.
 




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