More questions on VFR flight following.

Hi - the thread seems to have been hijacked, but a few thoughts for
you:

Get flight following before arriving at the area - that will make
things easier.

They are pretty likely to accommodate you if you sound competent on
the radio.

You could fly a bit lower, under the class B shelf, and contact
Morristown tower for permission to transit their airspace. This will
be granted, almost certainly.

There is a VFR transit route directly through NYC, down the Hudson
River. It's a bit hard to see on the TAC, but it is there - you can
fly all the way down the Hudson as long as you stay below certain
altitudes (the lowest is 1100 ft for the bits adjacent the city). You
really should do this route, as it is a lot of fun and very very
scenic. just make sure you are well prepared, study the TAC (and the
back of the TAC too) in advance, and perhaps get the advice of a local
pilot too. I can help you with this if you want.

good luck!

Tom


Second question since I'm on the topic. *I've never flown through any class
B airspace. *If i popup knocking on the door, having planned a flight to
avoid the airspace, what is the chance that they will clear me through it
for asking? *For example, I'm planning a flight that will save a couple
miles if i can cut through the NY Class B, on the west side, e.g. over
Morristown field, and I may not want to get up over the 7,000 ceiling due to
winds aloft. *Is it more likely to get clearance to cut a chord through the
outer ring like this -- as opposed to say expecting to, say, overfly the
Statue of Liberty vicinity at 5,500 (which is much closer to the center
rings of the Class B). *I don't see any VFR transit routes from a quick
glance of the NY TAC. *I guess my strategy would be to plan a circutous
route that keeps my clear of the Class B, but then when I'm close (but not
too close), ask if i can cut direct through it to my destination. *IF yes,
I'll just aim for a VOR on the other side.... Any thing I can do to, perhaps
planning the right route through, to increase my chances of getting
clearance?

Thanks -- Tman!

John Mazor writes:

No matter how much you tout the value of opinion ...

I don't assert that opinions are valuable, because their value is very low.
However, all opinions have an equal value, and that is the important point.

... to the point of claiming that "my
opinion is irrefutable because it's an opinion," opinion isn't fact.

I haven't said this, although others have said essentially the equivalent.

It's a fact that simming isn't flying.

That depends on what you consider flying.

Is being a passenger in an aircraft flying? Is moving through the air without
flapping wings flying? Answer carefully.

Tom writes:

There is a VFR transit route directly through NYC, down the Hudson
River. It's a bit hard to see on the TAC, but it is there - you can
fly all the way down the Hudson as long as you stay below certain
altitudes (the lowest is 1100 ft for the bits adjacent the city). You
really should do this route, as it is a lot of fun and very very
scenic. just make sure you are well prepared, study the TAC (and the
back of the TAC too) in advance, and perhaps get the advice of a local
pilot too. I can help you with this if you want.

Is there a FLY chart for New York? I don't see one on SkyVector.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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John Mazor writes:

No matter how much you tout the value of opinion ...

I don't assert that opinions are valuable, because their value is very low.
However, all opinions have an equal value, and that is the important point.

... to the point of claiming that "my
opinion is irrefutable because it's an opinion," opinion isn't fact.

I haven't said this, although others have said essentially the equivalent.

It's a fact that simming isn't flying.

That depends on what you consider flying.

Is being a passenger in an aircraft flying? Is moving through the air without
flapping wings flying? Answer carefully.

That depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Answer carefully.

MX has been known to defy conventional use of words many times.
Reading his posts is more or less like seeing a turn signal used in
Boston: all you can be sure of is the lamp isn't burned out. In his
case you can be sure he still has a connection the the 'net.








On Jan 5, 10:41*am, "John Mazor" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

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John Mazor writes:

No matter how much you tout the value of opinion ...

I don't assert that opinions are valuable, because their value is very low.
However, all opinions have an equal value, and that is the important point.

Tina wrote:
MX has been known to defy conventional use of words many times.
Reading his posts is more or less like seeing a turn signal used in
Boston: all you can be sure of is the lamp isn't burned out. In his
case you can be sure he still has a connection the the 'net.

Probably paid for by someone else.

Mxsmanic wrote:

That depends on what you consider flying.

Is being a passenger in an aircraft flying? Is moving through the air without
flapping wings flying? Answer carefully.

According to the dictionary they are.


--
Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Mazor writes:

The voices in his head must do a good job of simulating radio
traffic.

No voices in the head are required. The traffic is provided by other
pilots and controllers on the network.

Nope


Bertie

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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John Mazor writes:

So they go away while you're on a sim?

What does?

Oh, dear. Looks like we need to add ADD to your list of ailments.

That would explain why you spend so much time on it - kind of like
the old joke about the guy who hits himself on the head with a
hammer because it feels so-o-o good when he stops.

I spend a lot of time on simulation because I like to fly.

At the risk of encroaching on Bertie's schtick - that ain't flying,
fjuckwit.





That'#s OK. I got a million of em.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Mazor writes:

At the risk of encroaching on Bertie's schtick - that ain't flying,
fjuckwit.

That is a matter of opinion, and viewpoint.


No, it's a matter of fact.

Bertie