Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?

Subject: Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?
From: Bert Hyman
Date: 7/12/2004 8:04 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Why didn't John Edwards?


Given that John Kerry has made Vietnam service the primary issue
of his campaign, why didn't he choose someone with military
experience for his running mate?

John Edwards was 22 and in college at North Carolina State when the
draft was ended. ...

So, he's a draft dodger who used an education deferment to avoid
service.

Isn't that the way you'd put it?

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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |


Anything to take the focus off Bush.


Arthur Kramer
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Anything to take the focus off Bush.


We've looked at Bush thoroughly. The focus should be on Kerry.

He didn't go to officer candidate school because the Air National Guard
doesn't have one. You have been told that repeatedly but keep
repeating the same old tired lies even when you know they are lies.

Someone -- I didn't keep track -- said that Bush DID go to OTS. When I asked
if OTS attendees were considered to be enlisted men, I got nothing back.

It's also been alleged that the ANG was part of the Air Force. "No", that's
not right", someone else said.

Now I know in the Marine Corps the training requirements for reserve and
regular officers are identical. Every Marine officer goes through TBS, the
Basic School, even the academy graduates.

And I know that the National Guard are not strictly speaking reserve forces.
That is, they report to the governors of the various states in a way, and under
certain conditions, that the active reserves do not.

Maybe I missed it, but can anyone confirm that ANG fliers do receive officer
specific training or not? Bush's military resume states he went from an
enlisted status to an officer status on the following day. James Webb
characterized this service by saying that Bush never attended OCS (I think that
was the term he used).

Who's got the straight scoop on this?

Walt

WalterM140 wrote:
He didn't go to officer candidate school because the Air National Guard
doesn't have one. You have been told that repeatedly but keep
repeating the same old tired lies even when you know they are lies.


Someone -- I didn't keep track -- said that Bush DID go to OTS. When I asked
if OTS attendees were considered to be enlisted men, I got nothing back.


Personnel attending officer training programs typically do have
enlisted rank, even if only for administrative purposes (IIRC, I was an
E-2 while in ROTC in college, although the closest I ever came to
wearing a uniform with enlisted rank were the cadet ranks during my
first two years of ROTC).

Several enlisted troops in my group have been selected for OTS, and
will maintain their enlisted rank until completion of training, at which
time they will be discharged from enlisted service and then sworn in
as 2Lt's.

Mike Williamson

And who are you to ask?... foreigner.


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Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?
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Why did he become a weekend warrior when
he could have become a full-time warrior ?

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Why did he become a weekend warrior when
he could have become a full-time warrior?

Suppose you went to a recruiter and they said they didn't have any pilot
slots available. You could join the USAF and take what they have.

You could go over to the Guard outfit and find that they have some slots
available, but you have to join the Guard first.

Suppose you join the Guard as enlisted, get selected for pilot training, and
receive a commission.

Presto, you're a pilot trainee, instead of a clerk in the payroll office, or stuck
in a rocket silo in Montana.

Would you rather be a pilot, or be a PFC burning **** in Sihanoukville?

Billy Preston wrote:
Why did he become a weekend warrior when
he could have become a full-time warrior?

Suppose you went to a recruiter and they said they didn't have any
pilot
slots available. You could join the USAF and take what they have.

You could go over to the Guard outfit and find that they have some
slots available, but you have to join the Guard first.

Suppose you join the Guard as enlisted, get selected for pilot
training, and receive a commission.

Presto, you're a pilot trainee, instead of a clerk in the payroll
office, or stuck in a rocket silo in Montana.

Would you rather be a pilot, or be a PFC burning **** in
Sihanoukville?

Well, other than the fact that there is no PFC in the Air Force... But the
rest of your argument pretty much stands.

Subject: Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?
From: "Prof. Vincent Brannigan"
Date: 7/17/2004 5:00 AM Pacific Standard Time

Amendment X
:
:The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
rohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively,
r to the people.

The interesting thing is that while we now have both an administration and
Supreme Court that gives preference to states rights, the Federal government
now has never been larger, more powerful and spent more than ever before.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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The interesting thing is that while we now have both an administration and
Supreme Court that gives preference to states rights, the Federal
government
now has never been larger, more powerful and spent more than ever before.


We do not now have an administration or a Supreme Court that gives
preference to states rights.

"ArtKramr" wrote

the Federal government now has never been larger, more powerful
and spent more than ever before.

The federal government has never been larger than it was in 1941-1946.

P.S. Active duty military forces are part of the Federal government.