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Stuart Wilkes wrote:
"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et... Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi Germany. As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan. Stuart Wilkes Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler, Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them? |
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(B2431) wrote in
: From: "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" Date: 10/22/2003 1:48 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler, Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them? The U.S. cut off raw material shipments to Japan as a result Japan's misbehaviour in China. The Japanese rationale for attacking the U.S. was to ensure they could take the Dutch oil fields, the Philipines etc uninterrupted for control of their resources. Estimates were Japan had about 6 months before running out of strategic resources at the time of Pearl Harbour. My personal opinion is the Pearl Harbour attacks were a waste of time since Japan could have expanded into the areas without much more than a yell or two from the U.S.. While they might not have had much trouble with attacing the Dutch, I have a feeling that the invasion of the Philipines, which were a US territory, controled by the US army, with waters patroled by the USN, (etc...), would have caused some kind of negative reaction in the US. I find it very hard to believe that the US government would view an attack on the Philipines any anything other than an act of war. |
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Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:
Stuart Wilkes wrote: "Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et... Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi Germany. As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan. Stuart Wilkes Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler, Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them? Uh, no. -- Nik Simpson |
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Subject: 50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US
From: "Nik Simpson" Date: 10/22/03 1:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan. Stuart Wilkes The 3rd Ave EL was sold to Japan as scrap metal.We got it all back from the air at Pearl. No charge, Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ...
Stuart Wilkes wrote: "Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et... Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi Germany. As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan. Stuart Wilkes Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler, Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them? No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US. Stuart Wilkes |
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Stuart Wilkes wrote:
"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ... Stuart Wilkes wrote: "Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et... Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi Germany. As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan. Stuart Wilkes Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler, Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them? No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US. Stuart Wilkes Regarding your assertion equating pre 1941 US Japan trade with soviet assistance to Hitlers reich. Wasn't there an embargo placed on shipments of steel between the two countries, as well as access to oil? How does this support your implications? -- Rostyk |
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The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44. The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey, the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government. Michael very smart move on the us part as when we cut the oil off they lost |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:57:57 GMT, "eravanna"
wrote: The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44. The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey, the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government. Michael very smart move on the us part as when we cut the oil off they lost It's also pure, unadulterated bull****. |
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