Kerry's coming to OSH

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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John Gaquin wrote:

I thought they found that one off Spain.

They certainly might have recovered it and I missed the news.


Now we'll have to kill you...

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Which leaves us back with Mutual Assured Destruction as our only viable
"defense"... :-(

Not really. World is a very different place now than then A) Russia is
*not* the Soviet Union. B) Russia can't even come close to affording the
hint of an arms race. They are effectively bankrupt, but for the good
graces of a variety of western countries and lenders. C) The whole world
knows they are bankrupt and impotent, unlike the scenario through the 70s
and 80s, when they effectively bluffed the world.

Yet they still spend a fortune on missile weapons technology...

"Earl Grieda" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UbzZb.356568$I06.3764118@attbi_s01...
Glad the MAD has been put to bed.

Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM, making our Strategic Defense Initiative stuff
obsolete. It was in the news that they just successfully tested it
this
week.

The whole arguement for the SDI was that it was for "rogue" states and
would
be useless against Russia.

Then why did their own people say that our going ahead with SDI told them
they were up a dead end?

"Big John" wrote in message
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G.R.

Off Spain a B-52 and it's tanker collided. Tanker crew perished. 5 of
B-52 crew ejected ok.

B-52 had four bombs aboard. Three stayed in bomber when it crashed. HE
on two bombs went off and scattered Nuc material and we (US) took 1500
tons of dirt back here to dispose of.

4th bomb fell clear of A/C and into the water. It took 80 days to
locate and recover.

No record of any Alabama incident I can find.

One near Goldsboro, NC off). B-52 broke up in flight (wing fell off)
and dropped two bombs. One safety chute failed and bomb impacted
ground with 5 of the 6 safety switches activated (24 Mega ton
Weapon).

B-52 crashed landing at Tule Air Base, Greenland. Fire and Nuc
material scattered on Ice. Big clean up.


And those are just _our_ foul-ups.

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:34:44 -0600, Big John wrote:

Long time ago in a War far away.

A was deeply impressed while visiting the Titan II missile museum near
Tucson, AZ (when you are at the Pima Air and Space museum you might buy a
pass for the museum, the tour at Davis Monthan AFB and the Titan II). They
have an intercontinental missile with control center etc. there which is
open to the public. After seeing that I realized what cold war really
meant.
From the Titan II missiles they had about 40 or so in service and it only
needed 3 of them well placed to destroy the whole USA (just to have some
relations). And they had about 40 only of this prodution line (and
intercontinental long range is more a stratetic weapon than a first strike
weapon).

Well, the guide was a more than 70 year old man being very proud about the
nukes and not even considered with a blink of his eyes any alternatives or
was not really glad about disarmament.

#m
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:11:27 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

I had no idea that we kept the bombers airborne 24/7 -- I thought it was
just "Looking Glass" and recon stuff that was always in the air, with the
bombers on stand-by alert.

... and you really don't want to know what happened along the German-German
border or along the iron curtain during these years or when a submarine
from the UdSSR was spottet.

#m

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:16:21 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

Yeah, except now the Russkies have apparently developed a maneuverable
warhead for their ICBM

who are the "Russkies"?

besides ... just take enough money to one of the new countries developed
out of the former Soviet Union. There are enough people with enough
knowledge waiting too long for their salaries.

#m

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:11:03 -0700, Tom Sixkiller wrote:

Yet they still spend a fortune on missile weapons technology...

and for know they are the only ones to deliver to the ISS

#m

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who are the "Russkies"?

Um, the Russians? From the land of Rus.

besides ... just take enough money to one of the new countries developed
out of the former Soviet Union. There are enough people with enough
knowledge waiting too long for their salaries.

And do what with it?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Big John wrote:

No record of any Alabama incident I can find.

Sorry. Should've been Georgia. Here's one account.

http://www.tybeetime.com/tb/Pravda.htm

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.