Whew!

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Reminds me of that guy on Seinfeld--Elaine's boyfriend.

"Do you mean that you think I'm going to hell?"

"Yeah."

"Doesn't that bother you? I'm going to burn in hell for, oh, years and
years--doesn't that bother you?"

"Why should it bother me? I'm not going to hell; you are."

I went to Hell back in December. It was quite nice. We sent out some
postcards ("Wish you were here") and Christmas cards ("Merry Christmas from
Hell") and took some pictures of us with the devil (he doesn't give
autographs) and bought the T-shirt from Hell.

I would like to open a flight school there. People would come from all over
to learn to fly with the flight instructor from Hell. I would also sell an
ultralight or small plane kit called the Bat, so people could fly a Bat out
of Hell.

Jane and I are planning to go back in November. This time I would like to
fly us there, so I can land in Hell.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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I distrust violent religious zealots, including atheists and other
supposedly non-religious types who think it is their mission in life to
protect the world from those who have religious beliefs. None of them can
be
trusted.

You just named 105% of the population of the Earth.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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In short, I distrust those who are violent and dishonest, whether they
are
religious or not. All such are creepy. I have no reason to believe that
Mel
Gibson is either violent or dishonest.

True. But his views of his wife's ultimate demise *are* creepy, IMHO.

If one really believed that their spouse was doomed to eternal damnation,
as
Gibson seems to, can you imagine the day-to-day dynamic between them?
What
interesting dinner conversations they must have!

Mel:"Honey?"
Wife: "Yes, Mel?"
Mel: "Go to hell!!".

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Reminds me of that guy on Seinfeld--Elaine's boyfriend.

"Do you mean that you think I'm going to hell?"

"Yeah."

"Doesn't that bother you? I'm going to burn in hell for, oh, years and
years--doesn't that bother you?"

"Why should it bother me? I'm not going to hell; you are."

I went to Hell back in December. It was quite nice. We sent out some
postcards ("Wish you were here") and Christmas cards ("Merry Christmas
from
Hell") and took some pictures of us with the devil (he doesn't give
autographs) and bought the T-shirt from Hell.

I would like to open a flight school there. People would come from all
over
to learn to fly with the flight instructor from Hell. I would also sell an
ultralight or small plane kit called the Bat, so people could fly a Bat
out
of Hell.

Jane and I are planning to go back in November. This time I would like to
fly us there, so I can land in Hell.

Come to Arizona in July...we'll teach you what hell is really like.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"cn8cg" wrote in message
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Religious nut stuff.



As opposed to anti-religious nuts, I suppose. Frankly, the supposedly
non-religious appear to be every bit as dangerous and bigoted as the very
devout.

The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"cn8cg" wrote in message
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Religious nut stuff.



As opposed to anti-religious nuts, I suppose. Frankly, the supposedly
non-religious appear to be every bit as dangerous and bigoted as the
very
devout.

The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.



Nonsense. The Nazis alone slaughtered more than that. And they are
definitely secular.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.



Nonsense. The Nazis alone slaughtered more than that. And they are
definitely secular.

The Nazi's killed 30 million and Germany was 82% Protestant, 12% Catholic,
6% Jewish.

Hitler seeking power, wrote in Mein Kampf. "... I am convinced that I am
acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the
Lord's work." Years later, when in power, he quoted those same words in a
Reichstag speech in 1938.

Three years later, "I am now as before a Catholic..." the quotation from
Hitler was recorded in the diary of Gerhard Engel, an SS Adjutant, in
October 1941. Hitler was speaking in private, not before a mass audience,
and so it is difficult to dismiss the comment as propaganda lies. Great
literature was banned by his church, but his miserable Mein Kampf never
appeared on the Index of Forbidden Books

Jay Honeck opined

As opposed to anti-religious nuts, I suppose. Frankly, the supposedly
non-religious appear to be every bit as dangerous and bigoted as the very
devout.

Agreed.

Extremists at either end of the spectrum are dangerous.

your extremists are dangerous, my extremists aren't .


-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

See you in the Caymans !!!
"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Reminds me of that guy on Seinfeld--Elaine's boyfriend.

"Do you mean that you think I'm going to hell?"

"Yeah."

"Doesn't that bother you? I'm going to burn in hell for, oh, years and
years--doesn't that bother you?"

"Why should it bother me? I'm not going to hell; you are."

I went to Hell back in December. It was quite nice. We sent out some
postcards ("Wish you were here") and Christmas cards ("Merry Christmas
from
Hell") and took some pictures of us with the devil (he doesn't give
autographs) and bought the T-shirt from Hell.

I would like to open a flight school there. People would come from all
over
to learn to fly with the flight instructor from Hell. I would also sell an
ultralight or small plane kit called the Bat, so people could fly a Bat
out
of Hell.

Jane and I are planning to go back in November. This time I would like to
fly us there, so I can land in Hell.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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The non-religious didn't slaughter 260 million in the past 1000 years.



Nonsense. The Nazis alone slaughtered more than that. And they are
definitely secular.

The Nazi's killed 30 million and Germany was 82% Protestant, 12% Catholic,
6% Jewish.

Hitler seeking power, wrote in Mein Kampf. "... I am convinced that I am
acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing
the
Lord's work." Years later, when in power, he quoted those same words in a
Reichstag speech in 1938.

Three years later, "I am now as before a Catholic..." the quotation from
Hitler was recorded in the diary of Gerhard Engel, an SS Adjutant, in
October 1941. Hitler was speaking in private, not before a mass audience,
and so it is difficult to dismiss the comment as propaganda lies. Great
literature was banned by his church, but his miserable Mein Kampf never
appeared on the Index of Forbidden Books



Whether Hitler claimed to be a Catholic or not, he is very much secular. I
guess the Ukrainians, fellow Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons,
Russians, Italians, Yugoslavs, French, Danes, Dutch, and everyone else who
Hitler slaughtered are all very happy to know that they don't count in your
tally of 30 million. I guess their lives don't mean very much.

In addition to the Nazis, though, you have wholesale exterminations by the
Soviet Communists, the Chinese Communists, the Khmer Rouge, the French
Terror and the Napoleonic empire that followed it, Hussein's Iraq, the
Shah's Iran, Pancho Villa and many other secular regimes and terrorists that
slaughtered hundreds of millions.

Since secularists are so proud of claiming that the founding fathers of the
US were secularists, I suppose the extermination of the American Indians was
also fostered by secularists.

Your statistics about religionists slaughtering 260 million are a little
suspect, too. How is that calculated? I would not be surprised if that
number is wildly off, either way.

Whenever I hear someone claim that religious belief causes all the wars and
misery in the world, I someone who is buying into the idea of
disenfranchising all the people he hates, rounding them up, and
exterminating them.

It is all about money and property. Religion is sometimes used as an excuse,
but it is always about gold and power.