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Old May 23rd 04, 09:02 PM
David Megginson
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

According to my source, he crashed an Ultralight.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/ha...steve-wozniak/


Here's a site that says it was a Bonanza:

http://www.woz.org/letters/general/56.html

If Wozniak says it was Bonanza that's good enough for me.


It was good enough for the NTSB as well:

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=27749&key=0


All the best,


David


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Old May 23rd 04, 09:16 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Frode Berg wrote:

This is excactly what I wrote, but off course deleting the rest of my
sentence instead of leaving iot there makes me look like an idiot.


No, it doesn't. I'm simply saying that it's completely unimportant whether someone
gets upset at your criticism or not.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.
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Old May 24th 04, 12:12 AM
Frode Berg
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Yes, and this is also what I said in my post, only you deleted my point and
decided to only quote the first half of the sentence.

No worries though

Your flying budde,

Frode


"G.R. Patterson III" skrev i melding
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Frode Berg wrote:

This is excactly what I wrote, but off course deleting the rest of my
sentence instead of leaving iot there makes me look like an idiot.


No, it doesn't. I'm simply saying that it's completely unimportant whether

someone
gets upset at your criticism or not.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.



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Old May 24th 04, 01:08 AM
David CL Francis
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 at 11:28:00 in message
ogers.com, David
Megginson wrote:
David CL Francis wrote:

How times have changed. These men and women of the A.T.A. Delivered
aircraft from the factories to squadrons and to maintenance units. Not
quite a fair comparison as there was no suggestion of thunderstorms -
just poor visibility.


That was bad enough. Remember that John Magee, the author of "High
Flight," actually died not in combat, but in a midair collision with
another British plane during low vis in quiet skies.

Good point. I believe there are some 600 known crash sites in the North
of England where aircraft are believed to have flown into high ground
during WW2. Around 1 in 5 Spitfire and Hurricane losses were due to
accidents and not enemy action if my memory is correct.

From one David to another
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David CL Francis
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Old May 24th 04, 05:48 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Well, he's half right.


A V-tail Bonanza is halfway between an ultralight and an A36TC?


Do you know the difference between a A36 and a V35? Does he?

No wonder he crashed.


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Old May 24th 04, 05:50 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

According to my source, he crashed an Ultralight.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/ha...steve-wozniak/


Here's a site that says it was a Bonanza:

http://www.woz.org/letters/general/56.html

If Wozniak says it was Bonanza that's good enough for me.


It was good enough for the NTSB as well:

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=27749&key=0

His site goes into how it was a V35.

As I said...no wonder he crashed.


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Old May 24th 04, 12:48 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article zAJrc.95938$iF6.8453194@attbi_s02, Jay Honeck wrote:
As I was reading along, filled with the glow of remembering *my* first long
trip, I was astounded to read that he had run a fuel tank dry on final
approach! Almost in passing he casually mentioned that he was forced to
quickly switch to the fullest tank, and the engine re-started. He landed
normally.

I couldn't believe that anyone could treat a complete engine failure on
final with such utter disdain, but this very low-time pilot spoke of it as
if this sort of thing were normal and an expected part of flying.


In writing, you can't really gain the insights you get from speaking to
someone in person (inflection, body language).

I have a confession to make - I've been there and done that, and worse
still, I was deliberately running a tank fairly low. The trouble with
the fuel tanks in my aircraft is they have a "No takeoff" zone below a
quarter of a tank. Quarter of each tank must be considered unusable for
a go-around - that's quite a lot of fuel. So on longer trips, I'd run
one tank quite low to ensure I had well over the "no takeoff" zone in
the other in case a go-around was necessary.

Well guess what, it was a nice day, and I was pretty relaxed on downwind
and ommitted to check "Select fullest tank", to switch to the other 3/4
full fuel tank. I did a touch and go. At about 150' agl on the climbout,
the fuel unported from the other tank, which was in the "No takeoff
zone". You wouldn't believe how quickly you can run an engine failure
checklist when it really happens, especially when you already have a
pretty good idea what checklist item you missed on downwind... The
engine of course came to life immediately. It was a not-so-subtle
reminder about downwind checklists even in simple planes - but from my
writing, do you get any feeling of the adrenaline rush you get when the
fan stops at 150' agl? No you don't. You have to be a fairly skilled
writer to get that across.

I expect the incident did teach the pilot a lesson (if he's normal) and
I bet his downwind checks are a lot better now.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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Old May 24th 04, 02:11 PM
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And people wonder why no one can afford to fly...

Let's not perpetuate that myth here, of all places.

Anyone who can afford to buy a new Lexus can afford to fly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old May 24th 04, 04:30 PM
Blanche
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Jay Honeck wrote:
And people wonder why no one can afford to fly...


Let's not perpetuate that myth here, of all places.

Anyone who can afford to buy a new Lexus can afford to fly.


A Lexus? I can't afford one of those! (And wouldn't drive one if
I could). I keep telling my friends that an airplane costs the same
as a car. Pick any car, you can find an airplane for that price.

Got $15K? Get a Cessna 152 or Cherokee 140.

Got $1.0 Million? Got car and airplane in that range too!

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Old May 24th 04, 06:16 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Newps" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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It may seem odd, but this is how people often react when they have been
badly frightened.


I bet she wasn't frightened. I know two people on my field who are

exactly
the same way, always have been.


We have one in Minden too.

Mike
MU-2


 




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