Student Pilot lands short of runway

in article , David CL Francis at
wrote on 5/30/04 2:08 PM:

On Sat, 29 May 2004 at 17:16:14 in message
, Philip Sondericker
wrote:

Previously quoted material may occasionally be needed for context (see above
for example). As for the signature thing, this is the first time I've ever
heard it mentioned by anyone, but I suppose it's no big deal for me to avoid
quoting them.

If the message is correctly constructed with hyphenhyphenspace as
a signature separator then, if you have a newsreader that works as they
are intended to work, the signature will be automatically removed when
you press reply.

My newsreader must be correctly configured, because I've noticed that it
indeed does this (as you can see below--I swear it did it on its own!). This
renders somewhat ironic a previous poster taking me to task for not editing
out his signature, when it turns out he's not even separating it correctly.

You may have one guess as to which system does not work as it should.
The system really needs changing, as adding to the failure rate are many
people who appear to delete what they must assume is a surplus space
after the two hyphens!

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:skauc.11218$pt3.1381@attbi_s03...
Sorry if I've offended anybody by top posting again. Guess it's just my
nature to be rude.

I generally bottom post. I used to top post. I got used to bottom
posting because I generally like to reply to bits in between. Comment
on different things. If it's all coherent though, I prefer seeing people's
top posts if I'm reading a thread. If I pick up half way through, I
prefer seeing bottom posts as it's in the right order. Really though,
I'm not that fussed...

mike (I like high wings because I like to look down) regish

I'm lazy. I fly a tricycle geared plane.

Paul

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...
[...] This
renders somewhat ironic a previous poster taking me to task for not
editing
out his signature, when it turns out he's not even separating it
correctly.

I choose to "sign" my posts with a single line, containing only my first
name. If you are trimming quotes (and you ought to be, though you in fact
don't), it is trivial for you to delete that line. It would be silly to add
another four characters to my post (two hyphens, a space, and a line break)
just so people who ought to be trimming quotes anyway don't have to manually
trim the last line of my post.

The only irony is that you still don't seem to get the concept of trimming
quotes.

Pete

in article , Peter Duniho at
wrote on 5/30/04 4:50 PM:

The only irony is

There, I think I've figured it out.

As this appears to have gone completely off topic, and me not wanting to be
the one to protract this argument further, I thought I'd add my 2ps(UK vers
1.1.0) worth! haha

As far as I'm concerned everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The
variety of the postings not only allows for indiviuality to come across in
the usenet, but also adds some functionality. If everyone bottom posted, it
could be annoying....equally so with bottom posting. Both have there faults,
but both also add some ease to usenet: bottom posting aids continuation of
the thread; top posting aids speed of reading.

Show a bit of love and understanding. Save your energy for the more
important arguments, not netiquette versus the youth of today!

enjoying the posts
Tom Ferris (On the net since 93, 24 yrs old, 65 hrs FAA PPL ASEL in the
UK....not on anyone's side)

PS should I have added a signature break there? I typed it in manually, so
is it a signature or part of the message?!

Wow. What a mess this one is. No caps. Junk left at the bottom. Sig line
from a relative relic in this thread. My name below your response. Yeesh.

And, no I don't know how many ISPs have stopped providing usenet. Don't see
what the storage problem is with regular file dumping. Bless their caring
hearts.

I would think spam would be a whole lot more egregious and deserving of your
wrath than a few extra lines, or lines not where you like them in usenet. It
certainly wastes a much larger amount of bandwidth.

mike (entire post left intact for a reason) regish


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 May 2004 17:58:42 GMT, mike regish wrote:

OK. Maybe not "free", but included in the price.


a good one.
do you know how many ISPs stopped providing usenet?
many ISPs have newsservers because there are people working in the IT
department who care.

mike regish


#m


[...]
USENET is free.

If you think Usenet, or the associated bandwidth and storage costs, is
free,
you are a "****wit" yourself.




--
Martin!!! Maaaaartiiiin!!! Can you please flame this guy for me?
'HECTOP' in rec.aviation.piloting

Interspersed post follows...

On Sun, 30 May 2004 14:22:57 GMT, Martin Hotze gov
wrote:

I HATE scrolling down to read the latest...

it is a free world.
do whatever you want but don't start crying when top posters are not read
by bottom posters (and vice versa).
you have the right to post, but nobody has the duty to read the postings.


Hehe... I've not shed a tear on usenet , nor in FIDO before
it...
I doubt many read my postings, but I post in case someone may.
If they don't wish to read my post because it is readily found as
soon as they open it (on top) that's OK...

I read the posts/threads that interest me, (top or bottom) , I
can't even IMAGINE anyone not reading a post that interests them
just because it is on the top..... but , I guess there are all kinds
here...

Remember when we used paper files? The MOST RECENT info was
placed on top, and when you file e-mail, the MOST RECENT is at the

that email replies are put on top is due to the sick clients from one
bigger company.

Medication at the ready.... (I think I will be OK....)

top... newspapers in the library, MOST RECENT on top...invoices?
same.....calendars ? ...same....

and books? you expect the end of each page on top of the page?
if you want to put an analogy to real life then books or sheets of paper
are IMNSHO the best.

Nope, never mentioned books, - they are usually a continuous
story by one author, not separate events sequentially written by
separate people.. I would consider books very different from usnet
and a poor comparison as they are intended for a different purpose...
.....

And now we are supposed to place our MOST RECENT "news"
all the way on the BOTTOM????

it is threading. you know? na. probably not.

Guess not, but it still works for me...


Cheers! Thanks for your reply

Dave

Philip Sondericker wrote:

There, I think I've figured it out.

Yay!!!

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

"mike regish" wrote in message
news:9E8uc.15151$4A6.11070@attbi_s52...
mike (I'm gonna top post forever) regish


If he has a Harley I think we can let him top post.

On Mon, 31 May 2004 01:25:13 GMT, mike regish wrote:

Wow. What a mess this one is. No caps. Junk left at the bottom. Sig line
from a relative relic in this thread. My name below your response. Yeesh.

*holycow* .. you sure have absolutely NO idea about usenet, quoting levels,
signatures, sig-separators, etc..
well, score adjusted - it really hurts to see good hardware wasted.

the problem is pointed out: PEBKAC.

#m
--
Martin!!! Maaaaartiiiin!!! Can you please flame this guy for me?
'HECTOP' in rec.aviation.piloting