Possibly apocraphal story about Enola Gay display

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
ia.tc.ca...
Actually, the Queen of Canada (and other places, thanks Paul!) happens to
be an Englishwoman, and (at least in theory) retains considerable power. A
democratic constituional monarchy is a bit more complex than, say, a
republic...

Parliament & the Governor-General exercise the Queen of Canada's authority
on a day-to-day basis, but it is (again, in theory) her authority, not
theirs...

At least we don't have a Texan moron in charge!

No...you have Canadian morons in charge...and they're doing a fabulous job
of screwing it up even worse than our Texican is doing.

"Duck Dog" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 May 2004 09:48:43 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Amazing, if true, although it isn't the first time I've heard of the
Japanese style of blindered teaching of this period of their history.

I don't necessarily blame the Japanese for glossing over their own
sordid
history. They have to shave every morning, too.

I think the psychologists call that "evasion".

Nope, the word is "denial".

Yup...that's the one.

To be fair, the post-war generations of
Japanese have never been TOLD of the sins of their nation. And
ironically, it may have been at least partly our doing.

How would that be?

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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I wonder how those in western Canada feel about it.


They may very well have been disappointed with the vote.

Just the planes, ma'am, just the planes -- that's all I want. And it
sounds like Udvar-Hazy delivers.

Yes, but you'll be through in a few hours.

I went out on the eight o'clock bus, so was standing in line for the
opening (very cold it was, too!). I came back on the three o'clock
bus. So I spent six hours there, which is more than I ever spent at
another museum in my life.

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the Japanese have enshrined their war criminals in Tokyo -

Not quite the same thing as a shrine to Nanjing. Nor is Yasukuni in
Tokyo.

Nor in fact is Yasukuni a shrine to war criminals. As posted, those
who were tried as war criminals are included among the war dead and
those who committed suicide afterward. (I don't think it's in Tokyo,
either, though my browser is down this morning.)


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others). These martyrs are also the Kami of Yasukuni Jinja."

Is this the place where Tojo's ashes were interred?

Yes, that would be the place.

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1776-1783
1812-1815

(Apologies if I missed something in-between -- this is all from memory.)

No, you didn't miss anything, though it was a near miss during the
(U.S.) Civil War.

By contrast, the U.S. and Britain in the past one hundred years have
been allies in three major wars and at least four small ones. So you
might say that the two countries have gotten over their bumpy start.


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Congress declared
war so that they could invade the Canadian colonies; they didn't invade the
Canadian colonies because they were at war.

How terribly oldfashioned of them!

(It's amazing, how many things you can learn on Usenet.)

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On Sat, 29 May 2004 21:52:37 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
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"Duck Dog" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 May 2004 09:48:43 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Amazing, if true, although it isn't the first time I've heard of the
Japanese style of blindered teaching of this period of their history.

I don't necessarily blame the Japanese for glossing over their own
sordid
history. They have to shave every morning, too.

I think the psychologists call that "evasion".

Nope, the word is "denial".

Yup...that's the one.

I knew my psych degree would come in handy some day. ;-)

To be fair, the post-war generations of
Japanese have never been TOLD of the sins of their nation. And
ironically, it may have been at least partly our doing.

How would that be?

The American occupation authorities made a concerted effort to
revitalize Japan after the war (non-militarily, of course) in an
effort to create an ally in the region that would oppose communist
expansion. One aspect of this effort was instilling a sense of pride
in Japanese culture, and one of the ways that the U.S. accomplished
this was to de-emphasize the war guilt teachings that would otherwise
have been imposed on Japanese teachers and schools. There may have
been a certain logic to it then (indeed, it may have been the right
move), but the cost was 60 years of ignorance by the Japanese of their
own history of atrocities.

On Sun, 30 May 2004 05:27:09 -0400, Cub Driver
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Just the planes, ma'am, just the planes -- that's all I want. And it
sounds like Udvar-Hazy delivers.

Yes, but you'll be through in a few hours.

I went out on the eight o'clock bus, so was standing in line for the
opening (very cold it was, too!). I came back on the three o'clock
bus. So I spent six hours there, which is more than I ever spent at
another museum in my life.

Some up close displays of, for example, the cockpits would have been
tres cool. Just looking at the exteriors of planes just wasn't enough
for me, although I could've spent all day looking at the blackbird
(that thing was HUGE).

all the best -- Dan Ford
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