Theft From Baggage-Continental

"Jose" wrote in message
m...
We're not necessarily talking about spam. That's not the only reason
people use anonymity. Posting (on-topic) opinions with which some
people have violent disagreements is another. While that may not happen
here, it is not unheard of on the rest of the net.

What, we don't have violent discussions on taildraggers vs trikes? Damn
political correctness strikes again...

I still think that one should be willing to be held accountable for their
actions... If a person crossposts some totally off-topic bull**** across a
bunch of newsgroups and I can determine how they're posting it (either their
ISP or via Google Groups), I'll report it to the appropiate abuse
department... If they're not crossposting, I'm probably a bit more tolerant,
especially if they aren't using an anonymous remailer... I figure that if
they are willing to stake the possibility of losing their ISP on their
comments, I'll cut them a little slack, no matter how braindead their post
might happen to be...

Nomen Nescio wrote:

Well, I've killfiled the new remailer ID on my machine, but can't seem
to do it for Google Groups, so I'll reply... You don't seem like the
rest of the idiots that use the "Nomen Nescio" posting ID, so there is
a chance that you might be able to understand reasoning and as such, no
longer be guilty by association... I'll try to explain it to you on the
hope that perhaps you might "see the light"...

Nothing about the reply... If it had come from a non remailer account,
I would have addressed the issues that it brought up... If you look at
all the other posts by the various individuals using the remailer who
all appear as "Nomen Nescio", you might get an idea of why it is so
detestable...

So do I! I posted an on topic response to some comments you made
regarding
flying with a handgun. I was accurate, civil, and courteous. So you
launch
into an off topic attack without provocation, throw in a few 4 letter
words,
and come off looking more like a troll than I have in anything I've
posted.
Do you have enough class to hold yourself accountable and apologize?
I thought not!

I have said nothing for which I have a need to apologize... I would
have had no problem with your original reply -- if it had come from a
non remailer account, I would have addressed the issues that it brought
up... If you look at all the other posts by the various individuals
using the remailer who all appear as "Nomen Nescio", you might get an
idea of why it is so detestable...

So that's why you hate anonymous remailers, it makes it tough for you
to
play "Netcop". Well, there's one good reason I use remailers.....To
irritate peoplelike you who consider themselves the self appointed
guardians of Usenet.

Yeah, I'll admit it -- when I see someone posting a pyramid scheme or
some other sort of scam, I'll try to report it to their ISP... Your
type of attitude is the same as the neighbor who sees someone's house
being broken into and just watches, figuring that since it wasn't *his*
house, he shouldn't get involved... I'm from Texas -- we shoot the
people breaking into our neighbors' houses and IT'S LEGAL...

My, that's very nice of you!
And it leads me into reason #2 for using a remailer.....I'm not going
to
allow any loon that I encounter on Usenet to have the power to "cut
(me)
a little slack"...or not.

In other words, you're hiding from the responsibility of your
actions...

And, Yes, I would say everything I posted here to your face, also.

If that is in fact the case, why do you align yourself with all the
other cowardly anonymous posters that go through the remailers... It's
a matter of being able to easily identify a post coming from a
particular person so that others know who they are talking to... How
does someone not know that you're one of the other wackos that are
using the "Nomen Nescio" ID? If you are so afraid of using your real
name, you could use Google Groups with some sort of moniker tied to a
HotMail account that you delete after setting it up... At least with
that sort of scenario, you have created a name that might uniquely
identify you and as such, others won't think that might be the same
person as one of the others who posted under the "Nomen Nescio"
remailer ID... Maybe you could post under some ID like
"Not-So-Private-Pilot-1234" where "1234" is some number that means
something enough to you that you won't forget it... Do you actually
*like* posting under an ID where someone else can post something and
people will think that it is from you?

On 29 Mar 2005 07:46:05 -0800, "Grumman-581"
wrote:

Nomen Nescio wrote:

Well, I've killfiled the new remailer ID on my machine, but can't seem
to do it for Google Groups, so I'll reply... You don't seem like the
rest of the idiots that use the "Nomen Nescio" posting ID, so there is
a chance that you might be able to understand reasoning and as such, no
longer be guilty by association... I'll try to explain it to you on the
hope that perhaps you might "see the light"...

That name is aparently used by so many anomyous and disagreeable
posters it comes out as guilty by association even before people read
what is said.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger" wrote in message ...
That name is aparently used by so many anomyous and disagreeable
posters it comes out as guilty by association even before people read
what is said.

Agreed... If you do a search on Google Groups for the posts by that name,
you get quite a few, but there has been significantly more because they set
the X-Archive to 'no'... No only are they to cowardly to say what they say
with something that might be traceable, they don't have the balls to let it
stay around in the archives for posterity... I figure that if it was worth
saying the first time, you shouldn't mind it staying around forever...

I guess it would kind of be like someone who says they wear a white sheet
and hood because it is comfortable and it doesn't matter that the only other
people wearing that is the KKK... Sorry, but you're guilty by association...
I've encountered anonymous remailer individuals on other newsgroups and they
have always been trolls... There is no way that they would have the balls to
say what they say in person... That may be different with the individual who
is using it on this group, but I guess I won't get a chance to find out
because I killfile the domains of the anonymous remailers regardless of
whether I agree with the poster or not...

It's possible that the person who is using the remailer on this newsgroup is
simply misguided... Since he has X-Archive set to 'no', it's not like I
could look back in the archives to see if he actually is a reasonable
(albeit misguided) person...

"Grumman-581" wrote in
news:gzK2e.121325$Ze3.94841@attbi_s51:

"Roger" wrote in message
...
That name is aparently used by so many anomyous and disagreeable
posters it comes out as guilty by association even before people read
what is said.

Agreed... If you do a search on Google Groups for the posts by that
name, you get quite a few, but there has been significantly more because
they set the X-Archive to 'no'... No only are they to cowardly to say
what they say with something that might be traceable, they don't have
the balls to let it stay around in the archives for posterity... I
figure that if it was worth saying the first time, you shouldn't mind it
staying around forever...

I guess it would kind of be like someone who says they wear a white
sheet and hood because it is comfortable and it doesn't matter that the
only other people wearing that is the KKK... Sorry, but you're guilty by
association... I've encountered anonymous remailer individuals on other
newsgroups and they have always been trolls... There is no way that they
would have the balls to say what they say in person... That may be
different with the individual who is using it on this group, but I guess
I won't get a chance to find out because I killfile the domains of the
anonymous remailers regardless of whether I agree with the poster or
not...

It's possible that the person who is using the remailer on this
newsgroup is simply misguided... Since he has X-Archive set to 'no',
it's not like I could look back in the archives to see if he actually is
a reasonable (albeit misguided) person...

I know I'm relatively new to this group, mostly lurking and
having posted only a few times, but this sub-thread has really
caught my attention and would like to offer some observations.

For one thing, I know of some folks in other newsgroups that I
participate in that post anonymously and they are far from being
trolls. Why they chose to post anonymously is their own business.
But they are good contributors to those groups.

Besides, in my personal experience anyway, I encounter more trolls
that use real (or fake) email addresses than those who post
anonymously. Filtering anonymous remailers may nuke a few unwanted
messages but it may also nuke some good legit messages. What
about all the other trolls that don't use anonymous remailers?

I also can't help but notice there are more posts in this thread
complaining about anonymous posters, about ignoring them, and why
they are bad than there are actual anonymous posts.

Lastly, there are very legitimate uses of anonymous remailers and
mail-to-news gateways. I have used them on occasion myself.

Brian
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"Skywise" wrote in message ...
For one thing, I know of some folks in other newsgroups that I
participate in that post anonymously and they are far from being
trolls. Why they chose to post anonymously is their own business.
But they are good contributors to those groups.

That has not been my experience...

Besides, in my personal experience anyway, I encounter more trolls
that use real (or fake) email addresses than those who post
anonymously. Filtering anonymous remailers may nuke a few unwanted
messages but it may also nuke some good legit messages. What
about all the other trolls that don't use anonymous remailers?

If they have the balls to take responsibility for their actions, I don't
have a problem with them... If they hide behind an anonymous remailer, they
get killfiled... If there is a person that is so clueless that they chose to
associate themselves with the cowardly anonymous remailers and their posts
don't make it through, so be it -- acceptable collateral damages...

I also can't help but notice there are more posts in this thread
complaining about anonymous posters, about ignoring them, and why
they are bad than there are actual anonymous posts.

It's the principle of the thing...

Lastly, there are very legitimate uses of anonymous remailers and
mail-to-news gateways. I have used them on occasion myself.

If someone is using one, they're hiding from something... They don't have
the balls to accept the repercussions of their words... If they're not
willing to own up to what they say, why should someone waste their time
reading their dribble?

I work baggage for CO..........they don't cover for lost
articles..........that's what the bag is........lost articles are a nuisance
for the airlines........people leave all kinds of things.....they take lots
of time and money away from them..........would you like us to wipe your
butt too?


http://www.newbid.net/index.asp

"Barney" wrote in message
...
I work baggage for CO..........they don't cover for lost
articles..........that's what the bag is........lost articles are a
nuisance
for the airlines........people leave all kinds of things.....they take
lots
of time and money away from them..........would you like us to wipe your
butt too?


http://www.newbid.net/index.asp


We would like you to not steal or lose our belongings and in return we will
take care of our own butts. Deal?

Nomen Nescio wrote:
Ok, Now you're REALLY getting on my nerves. Would you care
to discuss these "repercussions" that you keep mentioning.

I believe he said that he killfiled your domain. It looks like you got
the last word in though :-)

Nomen Nescio wrote:
Oh, I'm pretty sure the dickless wonder read it. He just can't back
up his
tough talk. Outside of stirring up a lot of **** with someone's ISP,
what
the hell can he really do. And really, most ISP's would tell him to
go
screw himself, anyway.
Let's face it, the Dizum remailer has been around for at least 5
years.
If the moron can't figure out how to killfile a domain in that length
of
time, he probably needs a set of instructions posted over the toilet
paper
roll. And I've never figured out the mentality of someone who feels a
need
to announce that they are "going to killfile" someone. I guess it
gives the
wimp a sense of power. It's always seemed analagous to a little kid
sticking
his fingers in his ears and going "la.la.la.la.la" to act like he
isn't
listening to someone, though.
I've never killfiled anyone on Usenet and I won't killfile this turd,
either.
But I certainly won't be offering him any helpful advice in the
future.
Nope, the loudmouth wouldn't dare post his list of "repercussions"
'cause
any theats he could offer would probably be just cause for the State
of
Texas to pull his Concealed Carry Pistol Permit faster than he
finishes a
romantic encounter with his sister.

I believe that the dizum remailer's domain is not constant, so perhaps
that's why he was ****ed that it popped up again. You have to admit
that it tends to be used by a lot of trolls though. I suspect that the
non-trolls who use it are the exception, not the rule. As such, I
suspect that he figures that you are just guilty by association. It
appears that the concept of being totally anonymous makes him somewhat
irate. To each his own, I guess.