Merry Christmas to Everyone

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:39:13 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Dan Luke wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand humor, even with the smiley
to making it glaringly obvious.


I saw the smiley. It seemed to me feeble attempt to sugar coat the arrogance
of your position. Are you now saying you *don't* believe atheists are
naturally jealous and miserable because they don't believe your book?

I'm not an atheist and don't know any who profess that belief so I
really don't know. It was a joke. Get it yet?


BTW, is it "Christian" to call people stupid?

It is Christian to speak the truth.


Matt

It seems to be "christian" to do whatever suits a "christian's" mood
and inclination at the time, and then create some convenient aphorism
to authorize and validate it.

In article , "Dan Luke"
wrote:

BTW, is it "Christian" to call people stupid?

probably not.

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

"Jon Kraus" wrote in message
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Everything I said is true and I stand by my statements. And yes Kwanza's
celebrants DID claim it was an African holiday.

Uh, *who* supposedly said that, when and where? The Kwanzaa web sites I find
say prominently that Kwanzaa is an African-American holiday founded in 1966
by Dr. Maulana Karenga, drawing in part on some African traditions (e.g.
http://www.tike.com/celeb-kw.htm).

That is the bull**** part.

No, it was the term "African American" that you called bull**** ("I don't
believe in the 'African-American' bull****. 99% of black folks have never
set foot in Africa... they are just plain old Americans like me... an
American not a German-American").

According to you, people are apparently supposed to designate themselves by
their nationality but not their ancestry. I fully respect *your* choice to
do so, but you have been unwilling or unable to explain why you object to
others choosing differently.

If you are insulted by my opinion then too ****ing bad. :-) We can agree
to disgree.

If you were confident that your position has merit, you could first make a
good-faith effort to reach agreement, or at least mutual understanding. To
do that, you would have to supply evidence for your claims (not merely keep
repeating them), and attempt to answer the questions I posed.

Instead, you practice a hit-and-run approach: you disparage others' words or
practices as "phony" and "bull****"; then, when questioned, you refuse to
discuss your opinions except to say "too ****ing bad".

Of course you have a right to behave that way, but others have a right to
respond by criticizing your behavior for what it is. That's how free speech
works--it doesn't mean freedom from criticism.

--Gary

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL-IA
Student Mooney Owner

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Jon Kraus" wrote in message
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I wouldn't call it a "tirade" at all, you did.


Uh, Jon, no one characterizes their own words as a tirade. But Pete's
characterization is accurate. You disparaged Kwanza as "made-up" (as
though any holiday could be other than made-up) and "phony" (because it's
not a native African celebration--even though its celebrants never
claimed it was!).


I don't believe in the "African-American"
bull****. 99% of black folks have never set foot in Africa and have long
been remove from relatives that are from Africa.


The term "African American" refers to black Americans of African
ancestry. It does not mean "people who have visited Africa, or who speak
to their relatives in Africa", contrary to your peculiar objection.

As with the holiday Kwanza, you take the term "African American" and
misrepresent its meaning in order to make it seem illegitimate. What
motivates you to do so?


Jon Kraus (an American not a German-American)


For many Xs, there are some Americans who prefer to call themselves X
Americans, some who prefer to call themselves Americans, and some who
prefer neither. Why is that difference so hard for you to understand or
respect? Why is it "bull****" for someone's preference to differ from
yours in that regard? Why do you feel the need to insult people for
making a different choice than you as to whether to put their ancestry on
a par with their nationality in their self-description?

--Gary

Gentlemen, gentlemen!

This thread, now about 100 posts long, is cross posted to 4 different
newsgroups, and is clearly off topic in all the groups it is posted to.
Could we just leave it alone, or at least take the discussion to a group
where it is on topic?

I expect that C J Campbell, who was just trying to be nice to y'all, is
ready to withdraw the kind wishes he sent at this point.

Now, let's talk about airplanes...
-Bob Korves
(sorry for cross posting this message)

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news
May God bless you and yours throughout the coming year.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


Ne Obliviscaris

john smith wrote:

You have to be a Druid.

and be washed in the blood of a tree.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:39:13 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Dan Luke wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand humor, even with the smiley
to making it glaringly obvious.


I saw the smiley. It seemed to me feeble attempt to sugar coat the
arrogance
of your position. Are you now saying you *don't* believe atheists are
naturally jealous and miserable because they don't believe your book?

I'm not an atheist and don't know any who profess that belief so I
really don't know. It was a joke. Get it yet?


BTW, is it "Christian" to call people stupid?

It is Christian to speak the truth.


Matt

It seems to be "christian" to do whatever suits a "christian's" mood
and inclination at the time, and then create some convenient aphorism
to authorize and validate it.


It seems that you are prone to generalizations that are without basis in fact.
Christians are simply human and suffer the same human faults as everyone else.
If however you are without fault, you can continue to toss stones.



Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Why would I be bothered about a statue of a dog?
We have statues of horses, elephants, bulls, eagles aned a whole host of
other creatures on display in many of the worlds cities.



Well, you probably wouldn't be, until the time the government, when at
last composed solely of Airedale worshippers, insisted that you
observe the "true" religion, and forced you to get on your knees
whenever the Holy Airedale went by.



So when was the last time you were ask to do likewise by a Christian or any
other religion in the US?


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

"Bob Korves" bkorves@winfirstDECIMALcom wrote in message
...
Gentlemen, gentlemen!

This thread, now about 100 posts long, is cross posted to 4 different
newsgroups, and is clearly off topic in all the groups it is posted to.
Could we just leave it alone, or at least take the discussion to a group
where it is on topic?

I expect that C J Campbell, who was just trying to be nice to y'all, is
ready to withdraw the kind wishes he sent at this point.

Now, let's talk about airplanes...
-Bob Korves
(sorry for cross posting this message)

I was thinking that.

wrote in message
...
It seems to be "christian" to do whatever suits a "christian's" mood
and inclination at the time, and then create some convenient aphorism
to authorize and validate it.

That's like saying "it seems to be 'black' to go around shooting people and
dealing drugs".

Your stereotype of Christians is way off the mark, even if it does describe
many Christians accurately.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
It seems to be "christian" to do whatever suits a "christian's" mood
and inclination at the time, and then create some convenient aphorism
to authorize and validate it.

That's like saying "it seems to be 'black' to go around shooting people
and dealing drugs".

Your stereotype of Christians is way off the mark, even if it does
describe many Christians accurately.

Pete


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