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Old September 24th 05, 10:29 PM
Ice blonde
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Default Trial flying lesson

Hi

Due to a freak chance meeting with a pilot in training and an aircraft
engineer, I have managed to talk myself into taking a trial flying
lesson.

Can you help with a few questions I have, having never been up in a
small aircraft and being scared of heights (well on tall buildings
anyway) But I do WANT to do this, don't get me wrong.

Can you experience pressure problems in your ears similar to on a
commercial jet?

Is it best to go alone with just the instructor, or take a willing
victim to witness your trial?

Do they have sick bags?

Do you get a parachute in case anything goes wrong?

And how addictive is flying really, I mean if I open my eyes and like
it?

All other helpful information appreciated, this is not a troll, I'm
serious.

Many thanks

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Old September 24th 05, 10:47 PM
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"Ice blonde" wrote in message
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Hi

Due to a freak chance meeting with a pilot in training and an aircraft
engineer, I have managed to talk myself into taking a trial flying
lesson.

Can you help with a few questions I have, having never been up in a
small aircraft and being scared of heights (well on tall buildings
anyway) But I do WANT to do this, don't get me wrong.


There are many pilots, myself included, that are afraid of heights.
Standing on a ladder or roof scares the s* out of me, but flying in small
planes doesn't have the same effect.

Can you experience pressure problems in your ears similar to on a
commercial jet?


Yes, at times, clear your ears during accents and decents by yawning or
chewing gum. It's usually not as bad as you get on an airline though...

Is it best to go alone with just the instructor, or take a willing
victim to witness your trial?


It doesn't matter too much. It's probably up to the instructor if she/he
allows a passenger during the intro flight.

Do they have sick bags?


Yes. I haven't needed to use it, yet...

Do you get a parachute in case anything goes wrong?


No. Unless you're doing aerobatics, a chute isn't required. If something
goes wrong like the engine quitting and not restarting, the plane will still
land fine,, maybe off airport though...

And how addictive is flying really, I mean if I open my eyes and like
it?


Very! Once you try it, you'll wonder why you waited so long...

All other helpful information appreciated, this is not a troll, I'm
serious.

Many thanks


Try it, you'll (probably) like it!


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Old September 24th 05, 10:51 PM
Dudley Henriques
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"Ice blonde" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi

Due to a freak chance meeting with a pilot in training and an aircraft
engineer, I have managed to talk myself into taking a trial flying
lesson.

Can you help with a few questions I have, having never been up in a
small aircraft and being scared of heights (well on tall buildings
anyway) But I do WANT to do this, don't get me wrong.

Can you experience pressure problems in your ears similar to on a
commercial jet?


You will not experience the eustachian tube issues in a light airplane at
low altitude that make some people uncomfortable on airliners.

Is it best to go alone with just the instructor, or take a willing
victim to witness your trial?


Up to you, but if a trial flight is your goal, you might want to consider
going with just the instructor. Distractions having a pax along on that
first flight can get in the way and the flight become more of a simple ride
than the instructional value you might be seeking. It's up to you to make
that decision.
Personally, as a CFI, I prefer first flights done with only myself and the
potential student. If carrying a passenger is desired, I would suggest a
pleasure flight and do the introductory flight another time.

Do they have sick bags?

Smart FBO's usually carry them, but take my word on it; if you know they are
there and you're thinking about them being there, I'll give you odds on
before the flight is over, you'll be grabbing for one :-)
Just pick a nice day....evening is a great time to schedule an introductory
flight. The air is smooth and you can relax and enjoy things more. Also, if
relaxed, and with any CFI worth the title, you will learn more, retain more,
and come away from the flight enjoying the experience.

Do you get a parachute in case anything goes wrong


Don't worry. On a first flight, (based only on the type of questions you
have asked here ) if anything THAT bad went wrong, you probably would be too
panicked to use the chute anyway. :-))))
Don't worry. You won't need a chute. What you'll be doing isn't anywhere
NEAR that dangerous. Just relax and have fun.


And how addictive is flying really, I mean if I open my eyes and like
it?


If you can manage to handle the "fears" you have posted here BEFORE taking
an intro flight, and if the CFI you fly with is any good at all, you will
come out of that airplane with a smile so big on your puss that it will
probably take six strong men to hold you back from grabbing the first phone
you see in the flight office to clean out your checking account to buy block
time :-)


All other helpful information appreciated, this is not a troll, I'm
serious.


Glad to know you Serious, and best of luck with that intro flight.
Let me know how it went?
Dudley Henriques
CFI Retired


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Old September 24th 05, 10:58 PM
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Can you help with a few questions I have, having never been up in a
small aircraft and being scared of heights (well on tall buildings
anyway) But I do WANT to do this, don't get me wrong.


I'm scared shiftless of standing on my roof, the top of the Empire State
building freaked me to no end, and elevators are NOT my friend. Having said
all this, I'm a flight instructor with several thousand hours and several
hundred students over the last 45 years. The phobias are NOT the same.




Can you experience pressure problems in your ears similar to on a
commercial jet?


Yes, but since the descent and climb rates differ by a factor of ten or so,
the time for your ears to acclimatize is greatly increased. THe short
answer is yes, but not so much.




Is it best to go alone with just the instructor, or take a willing
victim to witness your trial?


Your call, but most "first flight" lessons are in a two-place aircraft.



Do they have sick bags?


Sick sacks are a standard feature in all training aircraft.



Do you get a parachute in case anything goes wrong?


Your odds of hurting yourself in a parachute are a hundred times more than
simply letting the aircraft return to earth of its own free will. The glide
ratio of a single engine trainer is about 8 to 1, so for every foot you are
up in the air you can glide 8 feet forward. Most initial training flights
are at about 3000 feet, so you have your choice of any landing spot within
about 5 miles of your present location.



And how addictive is flying really, I mean if I open my eyes and like
it?


No more addictive than cocaine, meth, or sex {;-) I'd suggest a trip to
the library to check out a book by Richard Bach called "A Gift Of Wings";
the chapter "Letter From A God-Fearing Man" pretty well sums up the way most
of us in this newsgroup feel.




All other helpful information appreciated, this is not a troll, I'm
serious.


No problem. Nobody in here was born with wings.

Jim


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Old September 24th 05, 11:08 PM
Brien K. Meehan
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I'll just reinforce a few points ...

Is it best to go alone with just the instructor, or take a willing
victim to witness your trial?


Whichever you're most comfortable with is best.

Do they have sick bags?


ASK FOR ONE BEFORE YOU GO. Don't be shy about it. Any instructor or
FBO will be very happy to accomodate that request. It's a whole lot
better to have one and not need one than to need one and not have one.

Do you get a parachute in case anything goes wrong?


Just like the airlines.

And how addictive is flying really, I mean if I open my eyes and like
it?


If you open your eyes and like sex, you'll probably like flying that
much too.

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Old September 24th 05, 11:32 PM
Ice blonde
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Dear all,

Thank you so much for your replies :-)

I am glad I'm not the only one scared of looking down from high
buildings, ladders etc....

I'm sorry if my questions seem a bit wimpish, but being only just over
5'1" and having a total flying experience of a few commercial jet
flights, several unscheduled arial dismounts from speeding horses, and
most recently the flight of stairs at home, top to bottom, (that one
hurt!) I thought I could do with some advice.

Now am planning to have a flight in the South East of not so sunny
England, so the weather is bound to be unpredictable, do you think I
should be ok for an Autumn flight?

I am planning to open my eyes at some point, so I expect I will have a
great time.

Many thanks

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Old September 24th 05, 11:40 PM
Jay Honeck
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I'm sorry if my questions seem a bit wimpish, but being only just over
5'1" and having a total flying experience of a few commercial jet
flights, several unscheduled arial dismounts from speeding horses, and
most recently the flight of stairs at home, top to bottom, (that one
hurt!) I thought I could do with some advice.


Hey, you're a full inch taller than my wife, Mary, who now has over 500
hours as pilot in command of a single engine aircraft!

You'll do fine. Just be careful -- flying is as addictive as heroin,
and just as spendy!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old September 25th 05, 12:05 AM
Ice blonde
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Hey, you're a full inch taller than my wife, Mary, who now has over 500
hours as pilot in command of a single engine aircraft!


Great, that means they won't be one laughing or two handing me a
cushion and or board to sit on so I can see out and reach the controls!
(This happened when I learnt to drive, my first attempts being in a
tractor!)

Very worrying about the addictive nature of this, have never tried
heroin or meth, but can safely say I already have one expensive habit,
described by some as 'standing in a cold shower tearing up =A320 notes!'
But I suspect horses are not quite as expensive as flying.

Are there any flight instructors from Australia, on this group? I am
hoping to take a few weeks there next spring, and if I like flying in
the UK, I will probably want to have a go there too.

Many thanks

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Old September 25th 05, 12:27 AM
john smith
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Great, that means they won't be one laughing or two handing me a
cushion and or board to sit on so I can see out and reach the controls!
(This happened when I learnt to drive, my first attempts being in a
tractor!)


You probably are going to need a cushion.
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Old September 25th 05, 06:02 PM
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"Ice blonde" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey, you're a full inch taller than my wife, Mary, who now has over 500
hours as pilot in command of a single engine aircraft!


Great, that means they won't be one laughing or two handing me a
cushion and or board to sit on so I can see out and reach the controls!
(This happened when I learnt to drive, my first attempts being in a
tractor!)

Very worrying about the addictive nature of this, have never tried
heroin or meth, but can safely say I already have one expensive habit,
described by some as 'standing in a cold shower tearing up £20 notes!'
But I suspect horses are not quite as expensive as flying.

Are there any flight instructors from Australia, on this group? I am
hoping to take a few weeks there next spring, and if I like flying in
the UK, I will probably want to have a go there too.

Many thanks

Ice,

Don't know about overseas, but if I had the cash from my wifes 28 yr horse
showing addiction. I'd have a new Archer with a virtually unlimited fuel &
maintenance budget ;-)
Really, the horses cost easily 4 times what I spent on aircraft ownership.

Marty


 




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