Someone left a mess at CGX !

"Yes, I do want a park at Meigs Field," Daley said.
But there are questions about whether that's financially feasible.
CBS 2 poured through thousands of pages of city and state documents
obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. They detail the
history of pollution at the site.
We showed them to experts, including a Naperville lawyer experienced in
environmental law.
"Airports are notorious for all kinds of petroleum products being
dumped there. So you've got very, very, very dirty soil. It really is a
toxic waste dump," said environmental lawyer Shawn Collins.

A map prepared by the city's own environmental consultant shows where
soil tests found toxins called polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons or
PNAs at levels that exceed Environmental Protection Agency acceptable
standards.
"These are known and suspected to cause cancer in humans," said Wilma
Subra, a nationally recognized environmental scientist, who has served
on EPA advisory committees.
"They're very, very deep, and it's very toxic," Subra said.
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

A map from another city consultant's report shows where the park
district removed just 9 inches of contaminated soil. It was replaced
with a protective fabric and clean top soil.
Subra says the 9-inch solution was just a cover up.
"They know that everything below the 9 inches is contaminated and they
are not addressing that," she said.
And what's below those 9 inches is important because future plans for
Northerly Island may include wetlands, sand dunes, a wildlife preserve
and even a river dug through the property.
"What are you going to do with the environmental problems you now
unleash?" Collins said.

But that's not all. Behind this fence, there was a fuel spill from an
underground tank leak in 1993.
The state EPA later designated the leak as a "high priority" clean-up
project but didn't get Meigs to clean it up before the airport was shut
down.
"For an environmental leak from an underground storage tank to go
unremediated for 10 years is really a disgrace," Collins said. "The
environment is at stake. Human health may be at stake."
Subra said tests done by a city consultant showed that a toxic chemical
at one location was 300 times the acceptable limit.
After the park district inherited the problem, once again it covered
the former underground tank site with fabric, 9 inches of top soil and
fenced in the area.
"Just putting a fence around it and letting it seep and flow and be
discharged into the soil, the land and water is inappropriate," Subra
said.

The park district declined to go on camera, but its environmental
consultant says that "we are adequately protecting human health and the
environment with the barriers that are in place."
"Redevelopment will dictate how each of these areas of contamination
are managed," he said.
"It may be impossible to do financially," Subra said.
"We don't think it's overwhelming," Daley said.

CBS 2's Pam Zekman showed the mayor what the park district's own
consultants have found and their warning that additional clean up may
be needed.
"Oh yeah, anytime you open any land up you have to remediate. You have
to do testing. You have to do borings. And that will all be public
knowledge when we do it," Daley said.
"Why not do that before the airport was destroyed?" Zekman asked.

"Because the court would enjoin us and would enjoin you immediately,"
Daley said.

A court injunction could have delayed or stopped the project. For now,
the park district's consultant says monthly inspections must be done
to be sure the nine inch barrier is not penetrated."

GA Santa Strikes Again !, JG

"Yes, I do want a park at Meigs Field," Daley said.

"These are known and suspected to cause cancer in humans," said Wilma
Subra, a nationally recognized environmental scientist, who has served
on EPA advisory committees.
"They're very, very deep, and it's very toxic," Subra said.
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

Sounds like this Subra woman is a nut job. Even though I'm glad King
Daley is going to be the target of her wrath, I don't want the good
name of General Aviation -- already challenged on so many fronts -- to
be associated with these environmental wackos in any way.

"Aircraft emissions"? Please. What the hell is THAT? Maybe
0.0000000000001% of auto emissions?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
"Yes, I do want a park at Meigs Field," Daley said.

"These are known and suspected to cause cancer in humans," said Wilma
Subra, a nationally recognized environmental scientist, who has served
on EPA advisory committees.
"They're very, very deep, and it's very toxic," Subra said.
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

Sounds like this Subra woman is a nut job. Even though I'm glad King
Daley is going to be the target of her wrath, I don't want the good
name of General Aviation -- already challenged on so many fronts -- to
be associated with these environmental wackos in any way.

"Aircraft emissions"? Please. What the hell is THAT? Maybe
0.0000000000001% of auto emissions?

All the tasty Non-catalytic converted NOx and SOx goodies. Plus plenty
of
Benzo-**** underground. All we want from GA Santa is a super-fund site.

JG

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

"Yes, I do want a park at Meigs Field," Daley said.

"These are known and suspected to cause cancer in humans," said Wilma
Subra, a nationally recognized environmental scientist, who has served
on EPA advisory committees.
"They're very, very deep, and it's very toxic," Subra said.
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

Sounds like this Subra woman is a nut job. Even though I'm glad King
Daley is going to be the target of her wrath, I don't want the good
name of General Aviation -- already challenged on so many fronts -- to
be associated with these environmental wackos in any way.

Daley's wife is one of those eco-wackos. The Meigs park was her pet
project.

Why bother with cleanup? All of those dope-smoking rock fans going to
concerts there will ingest far more contaminants than is in the ground,
anyhow.

--
Remve "_" from email to reply to me personally.

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Daley's wife is one of those eco-wackos. The Meigs park was her pet
project.

Why bother with cleanup? All of those dope-smoking rock fans going to
concerts there will ingest far more contaminants than is in the ground,
anyhow.

The arena is on the northern end of xxCGX, in the old "crash zone".
Looking forward to the 2006 season, JG

Jay Honeck wrote:

Sounds like this Subra woman is a nut job. Even though I'm glad King
Daley is going to be the target of her wrath, I don't want the good
name of General Aviation -- already challenged on so many fronts -- to
be associated with these environmental wackos in any way.

I don't know anything about Subra and the specifics of what she said,
but an airport apron is essentially the same as a gas station -- lots
of fuel spills, oil spills, etc -- and former gas station sites can be
very expensive to clean up and redevelop. We're also the last ones
still using leaded gas, and lead levels can be a bit high even off away
from the apron as a result.

I think it's fair to acknowledge that redeveloping an airport is going
to be an expensive job.


All the best,


David

David Megginson wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:

Sounds like this Subra woman is a nut job. Even though I'm glad King
Daley is going to be the target of her wrath, I don't want the good
name of General Aviation -- already challenged on so many fronts -- to
be associated with these environmental wackos in any way.

I don't know anything about Subra and the specifics of what she said,
but an airport apron is essentially the same as a gas station -- lots
of fuel spills, oil spills, etc -- and former gas station sites can be
very expensive to clean up and redevelop. We're also the last ones
still using leaded gas, and lead levels can be a bit high even off away
from the apron as a result.

http://www.leanweb.org

She helped us in getting the state permit revoked for a local power
plant and forcing them to the bargaining table which they previously
refused to do... CLECO nearly filed bankruptcy, I believe CALPINE is
about to, they are partners in it...

wrote:
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

If you dug down into any number of 50 year-old (or greater) backyards
you's probably be shocked at the concotion of contaminats to be found.
I would bet any money that the amounts of contaminats from various
airports are but a blip in the noise level compared to all the contaminats
from homes and businesses across the country.

But why inject logic in to the maelstrom.

"kontiki" wrote in message
...
wrote:
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were found
up to 9 feet below ground.

If you dug down into any number of 50 year-old (or greater) backyards
you's probably be shocked at the concotion of contaminats to be found.
I would bet any money that the amounts of contaminats from various
airports are but a blip in the noise level compared to all the contaminats
from homes and businesses across the country.

But why inject logic in to the maelstrom.


Probably just contamination from Lake Michigan! Daley deserves all the hell
he will get from this deal.

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DW

Meigs Field is a man made island created in the 1930s. Who knows where
all the fill came from so it isn't surprising that contamination can be
found deep in the soil.

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

"kontiki" wrote in message
...
wrote:
The chemicals are the by-product of aircraft emissions, refueling
operations, and spills that occurred over 50 years, and they were
found
up to 9 feet below ground.

If you dug down into any number of 50 year-old (or greater) backyards
you's probably be shocked at the concotion of contaminats to be found.
I would bet any money that the amounts of contaminats from various
airports are but a blip in the noise level compared to all the
contaminats
from homes and businesses across the country.

But why inject logic in to the maelstrom.