Jet Crew: Reverse Thrusters Failed in Chicago - Washington Post

As Marty Johnson would say, "Verryy interewsting."


"lynn" wrote in message
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| This should create a lot of comments.
|
| "The -700 was certified using reverse thrust for landing.
SWA uses an
| on board performance computer (opc) to calculate T.O. and
landing data.
| From the F.O.M.;
|
| "The opc on the 700 takes into account the thrust
reverser's for
| landing,certificated that way, unlike most other
aircraft."
|
| It's true the classic fleet (and every other a/c I'm aware
of)
| considers reverse thrust for landing simply a bonus. Not
the -700.
|

The BE400
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/hawk...er_400xp.shtml
External Dimensions

Length
.................................................. ............................................
48 ft. 5 in. (14.76 m)

Height
.................................................. ...........................................
13 ft. 11 in. (4.24 m)

Span.............................................. .................................................. .
43 ft. 6 in. (13.26 m)



Internal

Cabin Dimensions

Length
.................................................. ............................................
15 ft. 6 in. (4.72 m)

Height
.................................................. ..............................................
4 ft. 9 in. (1.45 m)

Width............................................. ..................................................
4 ft. 11 in. (1.50 m)



So the cabin might fix the 737 intake but the rest would be
outside. BTW, what is the relevance of this, is this a my
Johnson is bigger than your Johnson?




--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"lynn" wrote in message
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| Jim,
|
| The B-737-700 engine, the CFM56-7, is 61 inches in
diameter at the fan
| blades.
|

lynn wrote:
Because the left gear is used for wheel spinup.

So they can't have both a spin up sensor and strut compression sensor
on the same gear?

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote

Ah, you guys are pussies. The fellows at Midway didn't have a tailhook
or
net
to contain them. G

Although, it could be said that they might have benefited from one.

I wonder why someone never got wise to using that "crushable concrete"
stuff
in the over-run area to catch the overly long landing? cost, I suppose.
I'll bet the family of the dead 6-year-old would like a chance to buy some
of that stuff for them.
--
Jim in NC

IIRC, the FAA wants 1000' of it at each end ... what's that leave for runway
length at Midway?

Jay B

It would make Mayor Daley happy, a reason to close another
airport.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:fTnnf.8716$SG5.770@fed1read01...
| "Morgans" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote
|
| Ah, you guys are pussies. The fellows at Midway didn't
have a tailhook
| or
| net
| to contain them. G
|
| Although, it could be said that they might have
benefited from one.
|
| I wonder why someone never got wise to using that
"crushable concrete"
| stuff
| in the over-run area to catch the overly long landing?
cost, I suppose.
| I'll bet the family of the dead 6-year-old would like a
chance to buy some
| of that stuff for them.
| --
| Jim in NC
|
| IIRC, the FAA wants 1000' of it at each end ... what's
that leave for runway
| length at Midway?
|
| Jay B
|
|

On 12/12/2005 15:21, Jim Macklin wrote:

As Marty Johnson would say, "Verryy interewsting."

Oops, that would be Artie:

http://www.laugh.com/main_pages/comicpage.asp?cid=302

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA

"Bob Moore" wrote

Then again...
we former Naval Aviators received a bit better training in controlling
approach speed and touchdown point than the average pilot. :-)

Touchdown point? I thought that was called the "initial crash point." g
--
Jim in NC

No, I don't know the details, but will always remember the accidents as
my boss was on the Cincinnati flight and my parents lost friends in
the Lake Michigan accident.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:nJnnf.28515$QW2.12069@dukeread08...
Do you know if part of that was to limit landing flaps to 40
degrees?


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"sfb" wrote in message
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| Mid sixties. United dropped one at Salt Lake and another
in Lake
| Michigan coming into O'Hare. America at Cincinnati. The
high T tail
| exacerbated the sink rate so Boeing and the airlines
revised the landing
| configurations .
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:5_jnf.28491$QW2.16430@dukeread08...
| If I remember correctly, the 727 had a series of landing
| accidents because the full flap setting was about 50-60
| degrees and if the pilot got too slow, they could not
| recover. Maximum extension was reduced.
| Looking on the Internet, I found a further limitation
for
| couple approaches with certain autopilots. Is there any
| early 727 pilot out there with the facts on the first
727
| and any changes in certification re flaps?
|
|
|

That's right, I'll have to slap myself with a wet noodle or
stick the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate where the sun don't
shine or whatever.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...
| On 12/12/2005 15:21, Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| As Marty Johnson would say, "Verryy interewsting."
|
| Oops, that would be Artie:
|
| http://www.laugh.com/main_pages/comicpage.asp?cid=302
|
| --
| Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
| Sacramento, CA

Bob Moore wrote:
"lynn" wrote

Not much room for errors at LGA, Reagan, or Orange County. Of course
with AA, CAL, DAL, LCC using LGA, and not SWA, you won't hear how
dangerous LGA is.


Hmmmm...I flew PanAm's shuttle B-727's into LGA and DCA a couple of
times a day for quite some time...never had a problem. Then again...
we former Naval Aviators received a bit better training in controlling
approach speed and touchdown point than the average pilot. :-)

True, and a Naval Aviator will never have a problem engaging the squat
switches. :-)


Matt