Let a friend fly the plane. Legal?

One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the plane has dual
controls, his friend is an adult, but no license. But I have to admit,
although I don't know of any specific prohibition on this, I'm not sure
if I should tell him its legal or not (I told him I'd research it and
get back to him. In the meantime he is supposed to read the FARS and
see if he can find out for himself).

Anyone know for sure?

One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane.

For part 91 light plane operations, there is no rule against it. It is
legal. You remain PIC and you remain responsible for the safety of the
flight.

Jose
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My experimental is a 2-place, and my non-pilot wife is my passenger
almost all the time. Since I'm in an age group that experiences occasional,
although rare, heart attacks and strokes etc., I'm teaching my wife how not
only how to control the airplane, but how to use the nav radios so she can
get back down safely in case I become incapacitated. I am not a certified
instructor.
During all this, however, I remain as PIC so there is absolutely no
prohibition against what I'm doing. My wife has no aspirations to get a
pilot's license so endorsements are a non-issue, only being able to fly,
navigate, and land the airplane.

Terry

"Jose" wrote in message
t...
One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend fly his
plane.

For part 91 light plane operations, there is no rule against it. It is
legal. You remain PIC and you remain responsible for the safety of the
flight.

Jose
--
You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

A pilot with a certificate, other than a student pilot
certificate, may carry passengers. A student pilot may not
carry passengers, they must fly dual or solo.
But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle
the controls, but then neither may log that time.

He should be aware that the insurance company object and he
should be careful about conditions.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Doug" wrote in message
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| One of my students asked me if it is legal to let a friend
fly his
| plane. Student is legal PIC, not an instructor and the
plane has dual
| controls, his friend is an adult, but no license. But I
have to admit,
| although I don't know of any specific prohibition on this,
I'm not sure
| if I should tell him its legal or not (I told him I'd
research it and
| get back to him. In the meantime he is supposed to read
the FARS and
| see if he can find out for himself).
|
| Anyone know for sure?
|

But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle
the controls, but then neither may log that time.

As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command may always log the
time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is sole manipulator
of the flight controls or not. More than one person can certainly log PIC
time, but I can't think of a circumstance when nobody can log PIC time.

-Mike

As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command may always log the
time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is sole manipulator
of the flight controls or not.

That is my understanding as well. The PIC is someone how accepts
responsibility for the safety of the flight, whether he/she is
manipulating the controls or not.

Best Regards,
Todd

I meant "who", not "how"... Damn fat fingers!!! ;-)

The person acting as PIC may not be able to log that time
unless they qualify under some regulation. Someone is
always PIC, but PIC time does not always have to be logged
on any particular flight.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"three-eight-hotel" wrote in
message
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| As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In
Command may always log the
| time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person
is sole manipulator
| of the flight controls or not.
|
| That is my understanding as well. The PIC is someone how
accepts
| responsibility for the safety of the flight, whether
he/she is
| manipulating the controls or not.
|
| Best Regards,
| Todd
|

A private or commercial pilot may only log PIC time when
they are the sole manipulator of the controls [that includes
the autopilot controls], it is possible that neither pilot
can log any of the flight time. Only a CFI or an ATP [in a
121 or 135 operation] may log PIC time when they are not
actual operating the controls.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Mike Murdock" wrote in message
...
| But if a pilot wants, they may allow any person to handle
| the controls, but then neither may log that time.
|
| As I understand it, the person ACTING as Pilot In Command
may always log the
| time (as total time and PIC time), whether that person is
sole manipulator
| of the flight controls or not. More than one person can
certainly log PIC
| time, but I can't think of a circumstance when nobody can
log PIC time.
|
| -Mike
|
|

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:49:53 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

A private or commercial pilot may only log PIC time when
they are the sole manipulator of the controls [that includes
the autopilot controls], it is possible that neither pilot
can log any of the flight time. Only a CFI or an ATP [in a
121 or 135 operation] may log PIC time when they are not
actual operating the controls.

Your blanket statement overlooks that the private or commercial pilot may
also log PIC time if acting as pilot in command of an aircraft on which
more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the
aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is conducted.

So a required safety pilot, if acting as PIC for the flight, may also log
PIC time even when not the sole manipulator.

It doesn't apply in the instance cited because, as presented, only one
pilot is required for the flight.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)