Angry

Tom Conner wrote:

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...

I don't recall Clinton being impeached because of a blowjob. He was
impeached because he sat down, raised his hand and said "I swear to
tell the truth, the whole truth, so help me God....I did not have
sexual relation with that woman..."



Maybe I am wrong about this, but I have never understood this "lying"
argument that justified the impeachment. If I remember correctly, the judge
in the case where Clinton lied specifically ruled, that for the purpose of
the trial, sex was only considered to be intercourse.

While his answer was evasive, it was accurate in regard to the trial.



I guess that depends on what your definition of "is" is, or what you
definition of evasive is and what your definition of accurate is.

Matt

Don Tuite wrote:
I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

your charts aren't up to date!.. it is now called E16.

--Sylvain

"Don Tuite" wrote in message
news

I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

Q99 was the departure point immediately before the crash, and the
crash scene (going by a map in the newspaper) was 2 miles away, into
rising terrain, more or less along a crosswind departure leg, assuming
a takeoff to the south. That'd be orthogonal to 101.

The accident report says the departure point was "Santa Clara," but
that's just part of Q99's full name.

I apologize if I'm trying to teach my grandma to suck eggs here.


From Hilton's message:

"A couple of years ago, a CFI and Commercial student hit the hills in
similar
conditions although it was day time. Scud ran all the way from RHV along
Hwy 101 below 500' in a Commander and then ran into the hills when they
tried to get through next to the reservoir near Hollister (heading into the
valley)."

Don Tuite wrote:
I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

Q99 was the departure point immediately before the crash, and the
crash scene (going by a map in the newspaper) was 2 miles away, into
rising terrain, more or less along a crosswind departure leg, assuming
a takeoff to the south. That'd be orthogonal to 101.

The accident report says the departure point was "Santa Clara," but
that's just part of Q99's full name.

Don, the info I gave above pertained to a different accident that occured in
2003; aircraft departed RHV. The most-recent accident did depart Q99 (now
E16). Sorry for the confusion, but someone asked me for more info on the
2003 Commander accident.

Hilton

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Hilton wrote:

No, but were instrument rated and it was a Commander. It may have been a
legality issue (currency etc) that cause them to go VFR, I don't know.


Doesn't sound like they were too concerned about legalities. Scud
running all the way from RHV along Hwy 101 below 500' would surely run
afoul of FAR 91.119.

I'm still not sure why they felt scud-running all the way down 101 to the
reservoir, then flying into higher terrain was safer than a 30 second IFR
climb though the layer. The obvious options a
1. Neither was current
2. Aircraft wasn't legal IFR
3. Major delay getting out of RHV (SJC traffic does cause a delay)

Note: This refers to the 2003 accident.

Hilton

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Ejection seats don't necessarily guarantee safety. My father died after
ejection.

Sorry to hear that, Robert.

What type aircraft?


Jack

Jose wrote:
S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous.


So is flying. Anything.

Some more, some less.


Jack

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:05:39 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

From Hilton's message:

"A couple of years ago, a CFI and Commercial student hit the hills in
similar
conditions although it was day time. Scud ran all the way from RHV along
Hwy 101 below 500' in a Commander and then ran into the hills when they
tried to get through next to the reservoir near Hollister (heading into the
valley)."

Oh. Getting old. That's why I apologize in advance these days.

Don

r. mutt wrote:
Well the article says the incident occurred at 8:20 a.m.

They found the wreckage at 8:20am. I believe the pilot made an 'emergency'
call to ATC at 9pm the previous night.

Hilton

("LWG" wrote)
[snip]
Yeah, like 900 secret FBI files in the possession of a White House
employee whom no one could remember hiring.


I absolutely loved his (Senate?) testimony. :-)

He had no answers for what exactly he did there - in the basement ...with
all those files, no recollection of who hired him to work in the White
House, no recollection about his interview for that White House job, etc,
etc, etc.

A democrat abruptly asks the Chairman for a lunch-break.

After "lunch" the guy comes back and say Vince Foster hired him. What a
sham!


Montblack