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Old December 26th 05, 08:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I was admiring an Emirates A330 on finals earlier today. It appeared to
be on the proper glide path (guaging from the earlier string of
aircraft). A mile out or so, for some reason, TOGA! and the aircraft
went into quite a nose-up attitude and climbed away, aborting the
landing.

This go-around happened on a clear wintry morning with little or no
wind. Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, unless there was some other
reason like runway incursion )

Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a
go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry?

Ramapriya

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Old December 26th 05, 09:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I'm no airline pilot, but I'd guess that that thing has a FADEC system
that records EVERYTHING that happens for maintenance sake.

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Old December 26th 05, 02:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ramapriya wrote:
Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a
go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry?




I've missed approaches a number of times over the years and had to go around.
The usual cause is a nonprecision approach coupled with weather that didn't
allow me to break out. Once or twice it may have been because a runway hadn't
cleared yet.

I never bothered writing any of them in the logbook. I just consider that a
part of flying.



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Old December 26th 05, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job,

He's not going to lose his job over a go-around.


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Old December 26th 05, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Scott Draper wrote:
Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job,

He's not going to lose his job over a go-around.


But it might strain things. I've heard that on go-around can eat up the
profit from a flight.
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Old December 26th 05, 07:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Several of reason to go-around:

=Ordered to by ATC

=Unsafe landing configuration

=Airport landing conditions out of limits


$$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that
uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/



Stubby wrote:
Scott Draper wrote:
Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job,

He's not going to lose his job over a go-around.


But it might strain things. I've heard that on go-around can eat up the
profit from a flight.


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Old December 27th 05, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"lynn" wrote in message
$$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that
uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/


Safety is first, BUT, if a captain does not consider efficiency, he won't
have a paycheck for very long. The smart captain spaces himself
appropriately so as to avoid go-arounds without upsetting ATC.

D.


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Old December 27th 05, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Capt.Doug wrote:
"lynn" wrote in message
$$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that
uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/


Safety is first, BUT, if a captain does not consider efficiency, he won't
have a paycheck for very long. The smart captain spaces himself
appropriately so as to avoid go-arounds without upsetting ATC.

D.


It may not even be a spacing problem. Consider parallel
approaches to intersecting runways. If someone ends up with a long roll
out on the intersecting runway, the pilot will have to go around
altogether, even if he is #1 for the runway, without any traffc
previously landing in front of him. LAHSO might not be in effect. How
is this field in particular laid out?

BL.
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Old December 29th 05, 09:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Capt Doug,

I never in my 17,000 hours with a very profitable Part 121 carrier, had
to explain why I executed a go-around. And yes I did my share of
go-arounds.

You see time off for not executing an ATC direct go-around is just not
worth the "efficiency consideration".

Time off for landing with an unsafe landing configuration is just not
worth the "efficiency consideration".

Time off for landing at an airport in which conditions are out of
limits is just not worth the "efficiency consideration".

"The smart captain spaces himself..."


I bet ATC just loves having you in their traffic pattern.

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Old December 29th 05, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Back when the air carriers first got TCAS, I recall a infamous S.E. US
part 121 carrier going around over the threshold at Hobby 13R because
he got a TCAS WARNING. He explained that it was his company policy to
go-around anytime TCAS alerted. Of course it was clear and a million,
no vehicles or aircraft on the runway. Hobby Tower nor the other pilot
on frequency were NOT impressed with that decision. The TCAS Warning
orginated from a transponder being benched tested in a hangar.

One visual peeky-boo and common sense is worth $$$$.

 




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