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I was admiring an Emirates A330 on finals earlier today. It appeared to
be on the proper glide path (guaging from the earlier string of aircraft). A mile out or so, for some reason, TOGA! and the aircraft went into quite a nose-up attitude and climbed away, aborting the landing. This go-around happened on a clear wintry morning with little or no wind. Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, unless there was some other reason like runway incursion ![]() Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry? Ramapriya |
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I'm no airline pilot, but I'd guess that that thing has a FADEC system
that records EVERYTHING that happens for maintenance sake. |
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Ramapriya wrote:
Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry? I've missed approaches a number of times over the years and had to go around. The usual cause is a nonprecision approach coupled with weather that didn't allow me to break out. Once or twice it may have been because a runway hadn't cleared yet. I never bothered writing any of them in the logbook. I just consider that a part of flying. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN |
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Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job,
He's not going to lose his job over a go-around. |
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Scott Draper wrote:
Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, He's not going to lose his job over a go-around. But it might strain things. I've heard that on go-around can eat up the profit from a flight. |
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Several of reason to go-around:
=Ordered to by ATC =Unsafe landing configuration =Airport landing conditions out of limits $$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/ Stubby wrote: Scott Draper wrote: Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, He's not going to lose his job over a go-around. But it might strain things. I've heard that on go-around can eat up the profit from a flight. |
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"lynn" wrote in message
$$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/ Safety is first, BUT, if a captain does not consider efficiency, he won't have a paycheck for very long. The smart captain spaces himself appropriately so as to avoid go-arounds without upsetting ATC. D. |
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Hash: SHA1 Capt.Doug wrote: "lynn" wrote in message $$$ NEVER is consideration in the Go-ARound equation. Any Captain that uses the $$ as criteria for a Go-Around should not be flying/ Safety is first, BUT, if a captain does not consider efficiency, he won't have a paycheck for very long. The smart captain spaces himself appropriately so as to avoid go-arounds without upsetting ATC. D. It may not even be a spacing problem. Consider parallel approaches to intersecting runways. If someone ends up with a long roll out on the intersecting runway, the pilot will have to go around altogether, even if he is #1 for the runway, without any traffc previously landing in front of him. LAHSO might not be in effect. How is this field in particular laid out? BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! ![]() PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDsJ7gyBkZmuMZ8L8RAub/AKDo78XjH1hzmiVjQ7AhAqOY15Ik3wCbB6S4 nXOIh5b4Ki/gmMpt56CS7UU= =Srg+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Capt Doug,
I never in my 17,000 hours with a very profitable Part 121 carrier, had to explain why I executed a go-around. And yes I did my share of go-arounds. You see time off for not executing an ATC direct go-around is just not worth the "efficiency consideration". Time off for landing with an unsafe landing configuration is just not worth the "efficiency consideration". Time off for landing at an airport in which conditions are out of limits is just not worth the "efficiency consideration". "The smart captain spaces himself..." I bet ATC just loves having you in their traffic pattern. |
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Back when the air carriers first got TCAS, I recall a infamous S.E. US
part 121 carrier going around over the threshold at Hobby 13R because he got a TCAS WARNING. He explained that it was his company policy to go-around anytime TCAS alerted. Of course it was clear and a million, no vehicles or aircraft on the runway. Hobby Tower nor the other pilot on frequency were NOT impressed with that decision. The TCAS Warning orginated from a transponder being benched tested in a hangar. One visual peeky-boo and common sense is worth $$$$. |
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