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Old January 2nd 06, 03:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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darthpup wrote:
Tell the judge that reply in a civil court after you crash into
someones home with failed- in- flight equipment and see what he says.


And how do you think this line of questioning will play out:

"Why did you attempt a landing at an unlit 2000 foot runway in the
dark when if you had just flown on for another hour, you would have
reached an airport with a 5000 foot runway and the sun would have been
up by then?"
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Old January 2nd 06, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Grumman-581 wrote:
Depends upon the weather conditions at the time... Day VFR over familiar
territory? Nawh, I wouldn't consider it an emergency... Night VFR over
Houston? Not a big deal, I've landed without a landing light quite a few
times... I guess it depends upon how familiar you are with your aircraft...


What about if you're attempting to navigate through really complicated
airspace? I ask because to the south of these areas (where the
pilot in the OP was attempting to fly) are several military airfields
and loads of special use & restricted airspace. Above is the floor of
DCA's class B. Just wandering south or following the river will get
you out of the ADIZ, but you will still fly into a world of problems.
Flying the plane--which is supposed to be the first priority -- can
quickly take a back seat to just getting on the ground where you can
simply be cuffed rather than be shot down.

It's not just a theoretical discussion for me. I regularly fly in both
the FRZ and ADIZ, and could some day need to make this call. I think
I know the area well enough to be Ok if it's daylight severe clear.
3-5 mi viz would be iffy. Night? Forget it.

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Old January 2nd 06, 10:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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darthpup wrote:
There is a requirement that in the event the aircraft you are flying
becomes non airworthy to land the aircraft as soon as possible at the
closest airport.



You have a seemingly bigger problem with English than I do, mate
Which country are you from?

Ramapriya

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Old January 2nd 06, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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But your honor I thought I could make it make to my home field after my
generator failed. I didn't think I would run into bad weather and crash
into that guys house and kill his family.
I knew the closest field was a bit short and abandoned but thats what I
did. Gee I'm sorry.

DUUUUUhhhhh

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Old January 2nd 06, 03:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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You need to be ready for an emergency. If you go into the ADIZ
consider a complete electrical failure or engine failure each moment
you are flying.

Flying is serious business when in controlled airspace. The guy on
the ground telling you what to do is not responsible for your life, you
are.

Fat, dumb and happy= fat, dumb and dead.

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Old January 2nd 06, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"darthpup" wrote in message
oups.com...
Tell the judge that reply in a civil court after you crash into
someones home with failed- in- flight equipment and see what he says.



Cite? Didn't think so.


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Old January 2nd 06, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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darthpup wrote:
You need to be ready for an emergency. If you go into the ADIZ
consider a complete electrical failure or engine failure each moment
you are flying.

Flying is serious business when in controlled airspace. The guy on
the ground telling you what to do is not responsible for your life, you
are.

Fat, dumb and happy= fat, dumb and dead.


Yeah, thanks for that. But it does nothing to answer my question.
Given the situation in the OP, and considering the type of airspace, do
you consider loss of electric an emergency? Platitudes aren't answers.

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Old January 3rd 06, 02:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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darthpup wrote:

There is a requirement that in the event the aircraft you are flying
becomes non airworthy to land the aircraft as soon as possible at the
closest airport.


What FAR is that?

George Patterson
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Old January 3rd 06, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"darthpup" wrote in message
oups.com...
Tell the judge that reply in a civil court after you crash into
someones home with failed- in- flight equipment and see what he says.


So how is an electrical system failed in flight a problem, for an engine
that has no electrical system in a different airplane? Not to mention that
you cite no portion of a reg. to support your position.
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Jim in NC


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Old January 3rd 06, 04:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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So how is an electrical system failed in flight a problem

The electrical system isn't the problem. The armed fighters are.

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