Busted TFR, what to expect?

Peter R. wrote:

Newps wrote:


I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.


Are there ever TFRs in Montana?

Sure. We are in a prime forest fire area. Fire TFR's are small,
usually a 5 mile radius around the fire and a few thousand feet agl.
Those TFR's are easy to avoid, just don't fly very low over smoke and
you won't have to worry about it. Cheney comes to Billings every August
from Jackson on AF2, he then hops on the Blackhawk or Chinook and flies
to Fort Smith for some trout fishing on the world famous Bighorn River.
There's a TFR here at the airport while he's actually here. They then
fly VFR in the helicopters to the river, 40 miles SE of BIL at about
1500 agl. There's a small TFR over the cabins they rent, 5 miles and a
few thousand feet I think. When the prez comes to Montana therre's only
about five places they will go and you'll hgere about it a week in
advance on the local news and in the paper. When Cheney is at his home
in JAC there will be F16's watching the TFR there. You'll occasionally
hear the F16 pilots over JAC here in the tower at BIL as they try to
contact the wayward spamcan pilot on 121.5 and shoo him away from the TFR.

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:03:35 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in ::


Are there ever TFRs in Montana?


The VP has a ranch there.

Close, he's in Jackson, WY.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:03:35 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote in ::

Are there ever TFRs in Montana?

The VP has a ranch there.

I believe it is in Wyoming - unless he owns a second one?

In article ,
Newps wrote:


I'm like you, rarely check notams. When prez/vice prez are anywhere in
the state it's big news and you'll hear about it.

There are reasons other than a political figure being in the area that
may cause a TFR to be up.

"Barney Rubble" wrote in news:4475e76b$0$9421
:

OK so a question for the drivers with XM or other satellite WX. Do these
technologies graphically display TFR's on the display?

- Barney


YES!!! (at least with the XM package).

The 396 shows the TFR's in red just like on this page:

And you can see the representation of your current position in relationship
to it.... (or restricted, or MOA, etc...). It also warns you when your
current corse is going to cause you to enter a TFR; Restricted, MOA, etc...

moving the "pointer" to the graphic of the area brings a "pop-up" of the
description of the TFR

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"Ben Hallert" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yep, every flight. It might be a difference in culture between younger
pilots like myself and people who have been flying longer. I did all
of my flight training after 9/11, and I trained in the LA basin, which
is somewhat busy. As a result, there was a bigger emphasis on checking
this stuff than my pilot friends who learned earlier.

Perhaps. But I started flying in 2000, and every instructor I worked with
already emphasized that a briefing for each flight was required in order to
be safe and legal.

--Gary

bob wrote:
1-800-WX-BRIEF isn't difficult, maybe they could have a recording just
for major NOTAMs in the area (they already connect you to your regional
FSS station based on your calling phone number).

Q. Don't you check weather before every flight?
A. X-country, yes, local, no. It's a California thing I guess...ya
gotta live here a summer to understand.

Remeber YOU control the briefing... you can request whatever info you
want.... standard, update, abreviated, outlook or just plain ask about
pertinent NOTAMS or TFRs.

In article .com,
"bob" wrote:

Q. Are there pilots that really check before EVERY flight?

Are there pilots who really do a preflight and engine runup before EVERY
flight?

rg

On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:32:45 -0600, Newps wrote:

Cheney comes to Billings every August
from Jackson on AF2, he then hops on the Blackhawk or Chinook and flies
to Fort Smith for some trout fishing on the world famous Bighorn River.

on taxpayers expenses? or has he to pay for the flight and all the stuff
for himself?

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On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:41:08 -0800, Dale Falk wrote:

There are reasons other than a political figure being in the area that
may cause a TFR to be up.

yeah. like Mickey Mouse on a parade in Disneyland. *lol*

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