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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:47:50 +0000, ktbr wrote:

Historically, however, (as most reasonable people would stipualate) it has
been the left that has made a career out of expanding government into ever
more creative nooks and crannies of life.

Unfortunately, though, this is no longer limited to the "left". The fact
that "social conservatives" (which is very different from the political
label "conservative") have been so deeply incorporated within the
Republican Party has changed what has been historically so.

Hopefully, this is a temporary aberration. Otherwise, we're left w/o a
real voice for [political] conservative politics. We can say g'bye to
ideas like fiscal prudence, minimalist government, states' rights, etc.

- Andrew

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:47:50 +0000, ktbr wrote:

Historically, however, (as most reasonable people would
stipualate) it has been the left that has made a career
out of expanding government into ever more creative nooks
and crannies of life.

Unfortunately, though, this is no longer limited to the "left".
The fact that "social conservatives" (which is very different
from the political label "conservative") have been so deeply
incorporated within the Republican Party has changed what has
been historically so.

Yes, the Republicans need to regain control of the party, and kick the
loonies out of it. Let them form the Social Conservative Looney party, and
then see how many elections they win. It is time to get back to true
conservative values; small government, individual rights, low taxes, strong
military, government out of private lives.

"Tom Conner" wrote:
It is time to get
back to true conservative values; small government, individual rights,
low taxes, strong military, government out of private lives.

Sounds like the Libertarian party:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:34:35 -0400, "Gary Drescher"
wrote:

I was talking about the left wing and right wing, not about the two branches
of the US Business Party.

So you are on the fringe of the left wing. OK.





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Jim Logajan wrote:

"Tom Conner" wrote:
It is time to get
back to true conservative values; small government, individual rights,
low taxes, strong military, government out of private lives.

Sounds like the Libertarian party:

Sounds good, but besides not being able to win elections, the Libertarian
types also advocate for open borders (come on in!), little/no drug control
(everbody get some Oxycontin!), etc. If you favor that, they're for you.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote:

Uh, as opposed to right-wingers, who seldom try to unduly restrict
people?

Correct.

Ever heard of "gay marriage ammendments" and other such moral
legislation BS?

Yep - but the left wingers is pushing gay marriage, not the right wing.

Exactly, just like the left wing pushed interracial marriage, women's
suffrage, the dismantling of segregation laws, repeal of laws against
birth control and non-procreative sex...

The right-wing strategy is constant: after it has lost its struggle for
repression on some particular issue, it disavows its stance on that issue
and insists that conservatism isn't like that anymore. But as long as a
particular struggle is still ongoing, the right wingers still battle for
the repressive side and claim that they're correct to do so.

--Gary



Check your history and look at which party was the most against
desegregation. I'll give you a hint it starts with a D.

Really? I had no idea that Lincoln was a Democrat as led the country for
emancipation. Oh wait, freeing slaves doesn't count, does it. Johnson signed
the civil rights act, but no thanks to Democrats in Congress either. He
depended on Republican votes to get it passed.

Owen wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:

"Tom Conner" wrote:
It is time to get
back to true conservative values; small government, individual rights,
low taxes, strong military, government out of private lives.
Sounds like the Libertarian party:

Sounds good, but besides not being able to win elections, the Libertarian
types also advocate for open borders (come on in!), little/no drug control
(everbody get some Oxycontin!), etc. If you favor that, they're for you.

It's too bad, too. Every time I describe myself as a libertarian
(notice the "l") I get jumped on. I certainly don't agree with
everything the Libertarian party stands for, but I'm getting closer. I
try to explain that I'm a Republican the way the Republicans used to be,
and people don't get it. I think it's a memory issue.

"Owen" wrote in message ...
Jim Logajan wrote:

Sounds like the Libertarian party:

Sounds good, but besides not being able to win elections, the Libertarian
types also advocate for open borders (come on in!), little/no drug control
(everbody get some Oxycontin!), etc. If you favor that, they're for you.

What gives you the right to tell anyone what they can't put into their body?

Skylune wrote:
Skylune wrote:
Gary Drescher wrote:

In any case, it appears to have been a small aircraft. Just two windows on
each of two adjacent floors of the apartment building show flames and
damage. No ground injuries have been reported; so far, it looks no more
serious than a typical fatal car crash.

Except for 14 firefighters and 4 civilians, just another day in NYC.


NORAD puting fighters up over major cities. Here we go again, the GA
circus causing chaos......

Nothing like having the country wondering if another 9/11 attack has
started for the 2 hours before an aviator was identified. But at least
NORAD is watching CNN...JG

"Owen" wrote in message ...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


Check your history and look at which party was the most against
desegregation. I'll give you a hint it starts with a D.

Really? I had no idea that Lincoln was a Democrat as led the country for
emancipation. Oh wait, freeing slaves doesn't count, does it.

That Lincoln freed them dosn't mean he wanted to eat lunch next to them.

Johnson signed
the civil rights act, but no thanks to Democrats in Congress either. He
depended on Republican votes to get it passed.


Exactly