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  #61  
Old January 26th 07, 12:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Bill,

"We have a new route for you, ready to copy" ATC shorthand for "spill
the bottle".


Reminds me of that great exchange between a biz jet and ATC this summer
(different context, but still funny, IMHO). The jet, after asking for and
not getting direct to destination several times, goes: "D-XXXX, request
20 degrees to the left to avoid" To which ATC answers: "D-XX, to avoid
what?". Bizjet: "To avoid cost".

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  #62  
Old January 26th 07, 12:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Grumman-581,

Come to think of it, drilling a hole in the floor and running a tube
through there for a relief tube is starting to sound a lot better...


You mean, regularly spraying a highly corrosive fluid onto the
underside of your plane, which then creeps in through every opening and
seam, sounds good? I don't get it...

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  #63  
Old January 26th 07, 01:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Thomas Borchert writes:

You mean, regularly spraying a highly corrosive fluid onto the
underside of your plane, which then creeps in through every opening and
seam, sounds good? I don't get it...


Urine is not highly corrosive. It's mostly sterile, dilute salt water
with a bit of urea, and a neutral pH.

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  #64  
Old January 26th 07, 01:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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If it is installed properly, it never touches the airplane.



"Thomas Borchert" wrote in
message ...
| Grumman-581,
|
| Come to think of it, drilling a hole in the floor and
running a tube
| through there for a relief tube is starting to sound a
lot better...
|
|
| You mean, regularly spraying a highly corrosive fluid onto
the
| underside of your plane, which then creeps in through
every opening and
| seam, sounds good? I don't get it...
|
| --
| Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
|


  #65  
Old January 26th 07, 01:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Demitasse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaA 'demitasse'
(Fr.) or 'demitazza' (It.) is a small cup (typically about 2
or 3 ... Another type of demitasse/tazza is a glass cup set
into a metal frame. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demitasse - 14k - Cached -
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"Grumman-581" wrote
in message
news | On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:41:57 +0000, in
,
| Alan Gerber wrote:
| Well, espresso is served in those tiny little "cups",
right? That's
| probably what they meant.
|
| OK, this got me a bit curious, so I did a bit of
measuring... My normal
| coffee "cup" is basically cylinder shaped with
approximately a 2-7/8"
| inside diameter and a 3-7/8" height... Leaving about 3/4"
from being full
| so that I have room to add sugar and cream to it in
addition to not
| spilling it while walking, I get 10 oz of coffee in it...
The little wimpy
| "cup" that Grace uses turns out to give exactly 8 oz with
the same basic
| space left at the top... Of course, if I'm seriously
caffeine deprived, I
| have mugs that are considerably larger... They'll probably
take the entire
| expresso pot and have quite a bit of room left over...
|
| I've got a four-cup coffee pot that makes two mugs of
coffee. It's
| theoretically four six-ounce cups, but it's actually
closer to five
| ounces each. I tried pouring water in from a measuring
cup instead of
| using the pot one time, and it went all over the
counter.
|
| Been there, done that... These damn companies need to
learn that if they
| are going to use the word "cup", it means 8 oz... These
little 2-3 oz
| espresso containers are not "cups"...


  #66  
Old January 26th 07, 01:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Maybe drinking cups should be sized like bras, the A cup
would be like those little cups they use at the dentist or
in your bathroom, the B cup would be a small cup of tea, the
C cup would be the standard 8 oz., and then the FFF would be
for beer at the ball game.



"Grumman-581" wrote
in message
news | On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:41:57 +0000, in
,
| Alan Gerber wrote:
| Well, espresso is served in those tiny little "cups",
right? That's
| probably what they meant.
|
| OK, this got me a bit curious, so I did a bit of
measuring... My normal
| coffee "cup" is basically cylinder shaped with
approximately a 2-7/8"
| inside diameter and a 3-7/8" height... Leaving about 3/4"
from being full
| so that I have room to add sugar and cream to it in
addition to not
| spilling it while walking, I get 10 oz of coffee in it...
The little wimpy
| "cup" that Grace uses turns out to give exactly 8 oz with
the same basic
| space left at the top... Of course, if I'm seriously
caffeine deprived, I
| have mugs that are considerably larger... They'll probably
take the entire
| expresso pot and have quite a bit of room left over...
|
| I've got a four-cup coffee pot that makes two mugs of
coffee. It's
| theoretically four six-ounce cups, but it's actually
closer to five
| ounces each. I tried pouring water in from a measuring
cup instead of
| using the pot one time, and it went all over the
counter.
|
| Been there, done that... These damn companies need to
learn that if they
| are going to use the word "cup", it means 8 oz... These
little 2-3 oz
| espresso containers are not "cups"...


  #67  
Old January 26th 07, 02:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roy Smith
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In article ,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

Maybe drinking cups should be sized like bras, the A cup
would be like those little cups they use at the dentist or
in your bathroom, the B cup would be a small cup of tea, the
C cup would be the standard 8 oz., and then the FFF would be
for beer at the ball game.


Makes sense. When I was in college, I used to frequent McSorley's
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McSorleys_Old_Ale_House). You couldn't order
one beer, they only came in pairs. Now I know the reason.
  #68  
Old January 26th 07, 02:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tony
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Would anyone who has had a beer or two before going to bed care to
discuss renal functionality at night?

Kindneys work at, among other things, maintaining bp and internal fluid
balances. If you're not taking in fluids, for example when you're
sleeping, they do have less to do. The point being made earlier is,
restrict fluid intake, not fly while sleeping.

The QED of that is to look at what goes on with patients who are given
fluids IV. Your model of lesser night time renal function would suggest
the collection bags would not get as full at night. The nurses aides
working the floors at night will be really happy to know that.

Here's another demostration that literate writing can sometimes mask
ignorance.



The reality is renal function has everything to do with

On Jan 26, 6:25 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Drink A LOT of water between around 4pm and 5pm - more than I wanted
to. Then sip very small amounts for the next 4 hours. I found I needed
to relieve myself quite a few times for the first 2-3 hours, then less
and less so. Then go to bed. I reliably did not need to get up in the
night. No doubt the physiology is different for night vs day, but I'm
betting the same method would work for flying (although I haven't tried
it).Renal activity does indeed slow during sleep, so you produce less

urine during the night than you do during the day, all else being
equal. Urine production steps up again as you approach the morning
and your usual time for waking up.

However, the procedure you describe is entirely reasonable and will
help avoid nighttime trips to the toilet. If you drink more water
than you need, your kidneys will usually remove it in 2-3 hours at
most. After that, you will simply be fully hydrated, and you won't
produce an excess of urine unless other factors (like caffeine or
cold) intervene.

A consequence of this is that sleeping in the cockpit would allow you
to go longer without a full bladder, but unfortunately this has other
undesirable effects.

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  #69  
Old January 26th 07, 02:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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Have you checked?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
Really? And my aunt would have been my uncle if she had ...

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|A cup is 5 oz. A "glass" is 8-12oz.
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| ...
| That is only 4 cups.
|
|
|
| "Matt Barrow" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | ...
| |
| |
| | Little John
| | Item Number: 6462A
| | Price: $7.95
| | Sporty's
| | Clermont County/Sporty's Airport
| | Batavia, OH 45103
| | Phone: 1.800.SPORTYS
| | Fax: 1.800.359.7794
| | Website: sportys.com
| |
| |
| | A convenient, spill-proof portable urinal that can
also
| be
| | used for motion sickness. Cap screws on tightly to
| prevent
| | spills. Constructed of durable plastic and is
reusable.
| Used
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| with
| | the Lady J Adapter (sold separately).
| |
| |
| | 32 OUNCES?
| |
| | What do ya do, hold it for a WEEK?
| |
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|
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  #70  
Old January 26th 07, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
There was also the story of the ferry pilot, taking a Pawnee
to South America. He drank a bottle of wine and then used
the bottle for relief. At the next border, the customs
inspector was demanding some bribe until he saw the wine
bottle. Confiscated it and let the pilot go. The pilot
departed post-haste.


If you've ever seen the John Wayne movie "The War Wagon", recall the Indian
chief drinking the nitroglycerin.



 




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